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Thread: Not Another Flight Helmet Post

Corran950
Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:02 pm
#1


Dear Smoke



When are devs going to give the rebels our flight helmets? I am not holding you responsible for what the devs do, I am just curious if you had gotten any word if or when this will be added.



I remember in the beta forums that we had a post of 1,400+ stickied to the top of the forum requesting that the devs put in the rebel helmet. Why has it gone silent? Please speak up rebel brothers this should not go the way of the Imperial hat where we get it a year later, we should of gotten one at tier 1 pilot like all the imperial pilots did. The other 2 pilot Prof. got a unique item for there tier 1 reward all that we got was a craftable flight suit, this makes no sence to me.



Posible solutions:


complete the flight helm and make it obtainable from any trainer. Also replacements should be available from any trainer which they also give color optionsfor the gear, you can only see so much orange before you think your in a prison camp. the trainers should charge for the replacements, hey devs another credit sink.



create a chest rebreather box this would satisfie me for a while and make rebel pilots look more like they did in the movies. this wouldn't be very hard to do since the model is in game already on the tie fighters helm. All the art department would need to do is remove the helm and hoses from the box, and retexture it with a white or grey color heck you could even keep it black. then make it into a necklace location and your done.






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DeepFatFryer
Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:15 pm
#2

I think the problem comes from the fact that the actual Rebellion Flight Helmet is only a partial face covering.

The Ace helmet is able to completly replace the face, so it can bypass any skeletal meshes on the face.

Of course the Rebel Flight Helmet cannot do this, since it leaves the mouth exposed. This leads to some dilemmas as the art team has to try and make it fit wierd-shaped heads, such as Mon Calamarian ones.

The workaround for this would be to just make it available to those with humanoid heads, but this would likely put the Devs under a lot of fire from Wookiees, Ithorians etc; who would state that the Rebellion is not a discriminatory group unlike the Empire.

They're damned if they do, and they're damned if they don't.

Of course all this is just a guess, it could be a completly different can of worms.



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ImaTwilek
Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:06 pm
#3






DeepFatFryer wrote:
I think the problem comes from the fact that the actual Rebellion Flight Helmet is only a partial face covering.

The Ace helmet is able to completly replace the face, so it can bypass any skeletal meshes on the face.

Of course the Rebel Flight Helmet cannot do this, since it leaves the mouth exposed. This leads to some dilemmas as the art team has to try and make it fit wierd-shaped heads, such as Mon Calamarian ones.

The workaround for this would be to just make it available to those with humanoid heads, but this would likely put the Devs under a lot of fire from Wookiees, Ithorians etc; who would state that the Rebellion is not a discriminatory group unlike the Empire.

They're damned if they do, and they're damned if they don't.

Of course all this is just a guess, it could be a completly different can of worms.






? I find that hard to believe. Explain the:


Swoopers Helmet, Marabi, Bone, Rebel Commando Helmet, Head Wraps. Theres no excuse. If they were really concerned about the game having the "Star Warsy" feel, then so many items would have been in game from the start. SWG is over 1 year old, and JTL comes out just as 1/2 assed as when SWG was released.


As for the other species. They're theadopted exchange students of the Devs. But, at least Ithorians had it better on their day 1 release.

Message Edited by ImaTwilek on 01-04-2005 05:10 PM



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X-Rebel
Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:07 pm
#4

i really cant believe that eveyone wants that ugly open faced helm i think the current helm has a way better feel to it.

As the guy said before i think having the fac covered like that does save alot of problems but i also agree with the statement about the swoop helms and so on but there has to be a reason. lol heck take the swoop helm and put a rebel pilot helm texture on it.


Anyways i like the helm and jacket look for the rebels at you didnt get a bandlier backpack or that helm that the privatiers get i think is ugly for the most part unless you dress right for it.




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ForeverChange
Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:26 pm
#5

I like the look of all of the new helmets in the game (except the color on the Imp one). Although I think it would be nice to have an open faced one for both rebel and privateer. As for the above post about not being able to do the art on it, I think it would be as simple as making swoops and other things (as said by someone else). And what about the swoop helmets from ROTJ, will those ever be implemented? I remember they might've used to be in the game, but now are no where to be seen.......



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ImaTwilek
Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:58 am
#6

The rebel commando helmets do exist, I have one. They altered the reward to anakins pod racer helmet, which is a swooper helmet.


But the problem is, there are imperial pilot outfits (body suits, helmets, and life support units).



I didn't come here to win, I came here to fight!
Ahazi: Lelan 2 3 4
HanseSOE wrote:
For those who cry nerf...
The technical term for this is "systems balancing", prior to release. After release, it's still balancing, but changes can be considered nerfs or enhancements.
Since you don't have it yet, if you cry nerf, I'll make sure your name is on the list to spew chicken feathers as your characters talk.
DeepFatFryer
Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:35 am
#7

Well they really should be able to do this, since they've done items such as Chitin Helmets which have transparent textures and an open chin-bit.

They're just being lazy and not bothering putting them in tbh.



Crixx, Xicrx and Crixxorian Darkmoon - Rebellion, Corsec and Imperial Ace Pilots respectively.
"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return."
"If your pvp battles in space only last a few seconds YOU need practice. The game isn't broken, you just suck!" - Thik
"There's no sensation quite like learning to fly. Tounge-tied and twisted, just an earth-bound misfit, I." -Pink Floyd
"One/two shot PvP is good because this is a game of EVASION. NOT ABSORBTION" - Big mean heartbreaker.
"Sod implementing anything half-decent, we have SWG to make! OLOL!"
"We already have expertise in space. It's called a brain." - Leaph.
Corran950
Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:24 pm
#8


As far as the canon flight helmet from the movies they should only be for humans and other aliens with near human shaped heads, the only races that i think would have a problem wearing human helmets would be Ithorians, Mon cals, And Twileks. all the others could have the classic helm with slight modifications to size for the most part. Ithorian's came into the game with many options on clothing and headgear. Mon Cal's should get a helmet that looks simalar to the marine helm with some sort of eye protection. Twilek's could get a helm that looks somewhat simalar to anikins pod racing helm where the top of the head is covered but the back is open for the tails which are covered in cloth.




Corran Tristen
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"If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater." Book - Firefly
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