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Konar-Bria
Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:48 pm
#1
I just became a master reb pilot and am looking to get some RE'ing done. Is there by any chance any information on approximate mins and maxes of different levels of space loot, so I can get a good idea what to expect from re'ing parts?
For example, I have10 level 8 weapons right now and here are the best stats fromthe best 8(not including the 5% bonus from RE'ing):
armor/hps: 712.3
reactor energy drain: 1978.4
mass: 27491.3
dmg: 2387.8-3692.1
vs shields: .643
vs armor: .642
energy/shot: 14.1 (made me spill my drink, lol)
refire rate: .393
Any advice and help is appreciated. Thanks.
aqu_muffins
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:07 pm
#2
guns can get pretty far up there, I've seen some REd guns with max damage in the 4000's
the best reactors are bwtween 30-40k power
the best armor i've seens gets up to about 2000
Shields can get up to about 3000 with a little RE love
Looted droid interfaces don't come lower than 10.00 from what I've seen, but can be REed lower.
Capitors max recharge rate is around 50, max energy is around 2000
Engines tend to be some of the worst loot, the best looted one I've seen is around 90
Message Edited by aqu_muffins on 04-11-2005 03:11 PM
newwb
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:40 pm
#3
best gun ive seen is around 4.7k damage, ive REd a capacitor with 58 recharge too
TomoRainer
Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:08 pm
#4
Is there any type and level of loot in particular you're looking for?
KaylBreinhar
Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:12 pm
#6
Konar-Bria wrote:I just became a master reb pilot and am looking to get some RE'ing done. Is there by any chance any information on approximate mins and maxes of different levels of space loot, so I can get a good idea what to expect from re'ing parts?For example, I have 10 level 8 weapons right now and here are the best stats from the best 8 (not including the 5% bonus from RE'ing):armor/hps: 712.3reactor energy drain: 1978.4mass: 27491.3dmg: 2387.8-3692.1vs shields: .643vs armor: .642energy/shot: 14.1 (made me spill my drink, lol)refire rate: .393Any advice and help is appreciated. Thanks.
The damage and EPS in that lot comes from the L8 reward blaster.
As for effectiveness, I've found the H-K Scorcher Advanced and MandalMotors Heavy Annihilator have the highest effectiveness - my personal bests being .651/.653.
As for masses, the lowest I've gotten was around 25,700 pre-RE. And for refires, the lowest was a .395. Reactor drain hovers around that 1800-1900ish range.
The beauty of the Borstel is that it's the best L8 in armor/hp, min/max damage, and eps.
SandLizard
Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:26 pm
#7
aqu_muffins wrote:guns can get pretty far up there, I've seen some REd guns with max damage in the 4000'sthe best reactors are bwtween 30-40k powerthe best armor i've seens gets up to about 2000Shields can get up to about 3000 with a little RE loveLooted droid interfaces don't come lower than 10.00 from what I've seen, but can be REed lower.Capitors max recharge rate is around 50, max energy is around 2000Engines tend to be some of the worst loot, the best looted one I've seen is around 90
Message Edited by aqu_muffins on 04-11-2005 03:11 PM
weapons: I have a lvl10 that's ~4700 damage non-REd (waiting for it's cousins
) and have heard of higher (that break 5k after RE) so I know some massive ones exist.armor: go with crafted, can get over 2500 in armor on lvl9, though sometimes you can find nice looted armor with near 2000 with quite a low mass. better to go with lvl7 crafted in this case though, can get 1800ish armor on that for much lower mass than lvl9 (or level 10 REd)
DIs: have seen (and RE'd) a lvl 10 at 9.7 spd (must have had higher but been rounded down when examining), after RE went to 9.18 I think (rounded to 9.2)
heh, haven't seen that good of shields dropping, but i've only seen one lvl10 shield since i started JTL. I've had a cap with recharge of 50 but no higher, nowhere near that energy though heh. and don't get me started on engines
(never seen a loot drop over 85 spd I think, and 75 in PYR stats - those PYR stats on a lvl8 though)
TomoRainer
Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:36 pm
#8
Level 10 engines can break 95 speed and 80 PYR. 1380 or so is the lowest reactor drain I've found, and 41K is the lowest mass I've ever heard of, though the best I've looted is just over 43K.
Imaridril
Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:00 pm
#9
Lately I've been finding that if I'm patient, I can RE armor that beats crafted armor at almost any mass. For example, for level 4 armor, use the low mass level 4 reward slab that Imp pilots get and then RE it with a good high protection looted slab. Or for level 6 armor use the 1269 protection slab that Rebs and Freelancers get as quest rewards and then RE it with a low mass looted slab. For level 8, use the 1868 protection slab that Imps get as a quest reward and then RE it with a 12k mass or less looted slab. Those are just the obvious ones, but there's plenty of others I've been able to RE at all the other levels. The only levels that seem really hard are levels 9 and 10, since low mass level 9 and 10 drops are pretty rare.
SandLizard wrote:
armor: go with crafted, can get over 2500 in armor on lvl9, though sometimes you can find nice looted armor with near 2000 with quite a low mass. better to go with lvl7 crafted in this case though, can get 1800ish armor on that for much lower mass than lvl9 (or level 10 REd)
SandLizard
Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:45 pm
#10
Imaridril wrote:Lately I've been finding that if I'm patient, I can RE armor that beats crafted armor at almost any mass. For example, for level 4 armor, use the low mass level 4 reward slab that Imp pilots get and then RE it with a good high protection looted slab. Or for level 6 armor use the 1269 protection slab that Rebs and Freelancers get as quest rewards and then RE it with a low mass looted slab. For level 8, use the 1868 protection slab that Imps get as a quest reward and then RE it with a 12k mass or less looted slab. Those are just the obvious ones, but there's plenty of others I've been able to RE at all the other levels. The only levels that seem really hard are levels 9 and 10, since low mass level 9 and 10 drops are pretty rare.
SandLizard wrote:
armor: go with crafted, can get over 2500 in armor on lvl9, though sometimes you can find nice looted armor with near 2000 with quite a low mass. better to go with lvl7 crafted in this case though, can get 1800ish armor on that for much lower mass than lvl9 (or level 10 REd)
hrm. what's a good low mass for lvl6? I get my lvl5 armor over 1300 now, I think just over 6k mass. Don't remember off the top of my head what lvl7 armor weighs (16k? 20k? - so that lvl8 armor is a good bet REd, I'll have to look for it in my loot bags *hope* it's still there, heh). I guess once master, spending time for that 'perfect' armor is a good thing, as decay is basically nothing with DS. Though, I do much outside, and wouldn't want to ever risk the chance of damage to my 'perfect' armor, which is why I always throw crafted on, just so easy to replace
.I'll be the first to admit there's still things I don't know, hopefully I don't put my foot in my mouth *too* often
Resetgun
Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:45 am
#11
"Good" Loot Table
This is summary data from 1 229 looted components. Reward, craftedand special components are not included. Samples are collectedfrom Farstar server.Samples are collected between 1.3.2005-27.5.2005.
If you find component that have better value than listed in table, you have just found component that is top 15% component.
Values
Listed values here are average value +- standard deviationof thevalue.
For example: if your looted level 6 engine have top speed 70,1, thenyou have just found engine with good top speed. This means that you have just found engine that is better than 84,2% of engines (assuming that values are normally distributed - which might not be true...).
Fluctation
I am using flucationto indicate how much values are varying in component. This is useful when you are thinking should you reverse engine these components or should you wait better components. It is calculated from:
Fluctation = ( StdD.Value1 / Avg.Value1 + StdD.Value2 / Avg.Value2 +.... +StdD.Value10 / Avg.Value10 ) / 10
For example: Armor mass fluctates 20%. Level 10 armor average mass is 41 051,66, minimal mass 29 649,5, maximal mass 52558,9, standard deviation 9044,61.
"Fluctation" for level 10 armor would be: 9 044,61 / 41 051,66 = 22%
Change / Level
Change / level is just calculated from ( max - min ) / 10. It might not be accurated allways.
Armors
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Armor 181 244 448 578 858 1 036 1 189 1 407 1 537 1 706 18 % 153
Mass 742 1 322 1 829 3 388 4 101 7 290 10 590 17 555 18 947 31 598 19 % 3 086
Armor / Mass 0,24 0,18 0,24 0,17 0,21 0,14 0,11 0,08 0,08 0,05
Boosters
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Energy Drain 456 451 511 460 521 522 545 540 535 545 7 % 9
Mass 760 1 285 2 033 3 432 4 946 9 006 13 147 24 133 34 464 41 569 7 % 4 081
Booster Energy 1 000 1 500 1 100 1 779 1 211 1 815 1 331 2 001 1 464 2 196 1 % 120
Recharge 25,7 38,7 28,5 45,8 31,4 47,4 34,8 51,9 36,9 58,4 5 % 3,3
Consumption 97,3 139,5 105,6 155,1 115,3 174,1 125,5 191,4 138,1 206,3 5 % 10,9
Accelaration 20,7 30,8 22,6 33,6 24,6 37,5 27,0 40,9 30,0 44,8 2 % 2,4
Top Speed 15,2 22,8 16,9 26,2 18,8 28,1 20,8 31,3 23,0 34,8 2 % 2,0
Notes: Odd levels are junk rule!
Capacitators
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Energy Drain 863 884 930 853 929 830 947 1 024 1 028 956 14 % 20
Mass 880 1 467 2 330 3 962 5 842 9 354 14 802 29 312 38 884 46 797 10 % 4 592
Capacitator Energy 607 893 610 912 647 1 023 734 1 091 822 1 228 16 % 62
Recharge 22,8 34,2 26,8 34,9 27,6 38,6 29,1 44,8 33,5 50,0 15 % 2,7
Notes: Odd levels are junk rule!
Droid Interfaces
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Energy Drain 485 485 487 485 501 482 482 480 483 492 3 % 2
Mass 478 850 1 084 2 099 3 094 5 369 7 705 13 064 19 165 22 934 4 % 2 246
Speed 33,2 33,0 29,2 28,9 23,6 18,9 16,1 13,2 13,4 9,9 2 % 2,3
Avg( 30-Speed / Mass) -0,0089 -0,0043 0,0001 0,0003 0,0019 0,0020 0,0017 0,0012 0,0008 0,0009
Notes: Best speed and mass combination is between levels 5-7.
Engines
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Energy Drain 1 422 1 414 1 192 1 438 1 371 1 526 1 560 1 585 1 634 1 595 9 % 44
Mass 822 1 401 2 204 3 796 5 546 10 190 15 264 26 030 38 433 50 814 9 % 4 999
Pitch 48,5 58,0 52,9 62,8 52,2 64,6 56,9 68,6 59,9 71,5 4 % 2,3
Yaw 47,5 57,6 48,9 61,1 53,2 65,9 56,6 69,2 60,1 71,9 3 % 2,4
Roll 48,8 58,6 51,3 62,3 53,2 64,9 57,2 69,7 59,6 74,9 4 % 2,6
Top Speed 46,4 55,2 52,0 61,8 59,4 70,1 66,4 78,7 70,2 87,3 6 % 4,1
Top Speed / Mass 0,0564 0,0394 0,0236 0,0163 0,0107 0,0069 0,0044 0,0030 0,0018 0,0017
Notes: Odd levels are junk rule!
Reactors
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Mass 968 1 822 3 189 5 359 7 731 11 283 19 053 32 237 48 280 59 523 13 % 5 856
Energy Generation 10 766 11 233 12 234 11 791 12 598 12 912 14 621 14 260 16 460 16 616 12 % 585
Energy / Mass 11,12 6,16 3,84 2,20 1,63 1,14 0,77 0,44 0,34 0,28
Notes: Higher level is generally better.
Shields
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Energy Drain 2 206 2 164 2 394 2 396 2 283 2 796 2 677 2 431 2 866 2 637 13 % 70
Mass 970 1 784 2 648 4 905 6 904 11 605 19 159 32 324 51 051 60 887 12 % 5 992
Front Shield 251,86 274,90 511,11 797,72 946,98 996,78 1496,20 1702,22 1642,46 2374,64 19 % 212,28
Rear Shield 222,04 303,33 503,92 739,66 1024,35 1263,02 1418,30 1745,17 1648,44 2117,75 17 % 189,57
Recharge 1,7 2,2 4,0 5,6 7,3 8,6 10,4 13,2 11,5 15,5 13 % 1,4
Total Shield / Mass 0,49 0,32 0,38 0,31 0,29 0,19 0,15 0,11 0,06 0,07
Notes: Higher level is generally better.
Weapons
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Fluctation Change / Level
Energy Drain 1 766 1 569 1 847 1 924 1 799 2 108 2 042 2 069 2 154 2 072 11 % 58
Mass 883 1 628 2 409 4 423 6 038 11 646 16 507 27 703 42 217 52 374 10 % 5 149
Min Damage 309 392 641 807 1 103 1 539 1 691 2 117 2 109 2 532 7 % 222
Max Damage 422 528 878 1 129 3 534 2 236 2 629 3 270 3 485 4 210 14 % 379
vs Shields 0,649 0,781 0,530 0,634 0,571 0,639 0,570 0,642 0,575 0,748 11 % 0,025
vs Armor 0,673 0,757 0,571 0,636 0,561 0,641 0,549 0,646 0,506 0,693 11 % 0,025
Energy / Shot 18,5 22,6 20,8 25,9 22,6 29,0 25,2 32,0 27,3 31,1 9 % 1,35
Refire rate 0,335 0,415 0,325 0,410 0,332 0,403 0,324 0,411 0,332 0,399 4 % 0,009
Estimated damage 170,9 267,0 368,9 552,1 741,2 1 070,9 1 057,4 1 576,7 1 338,2 2 028,9
Notes: Even levels seem to have better armor and shield peneration.
Odd leves seem to have better refire rate and use less energy.
Sample Counts
Level 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Total
Armors 22 42 12 7 15 17 33 28 10 13 199 16,2 %
Boosters 15 20 7 11 27 15 35 32 9 14 185 15,1 %
Capacitators 26 20 13 21 18 16 25 23 20 20 202 16,4 %
Droid Interfaces 16 24 13 12 4 15 15 31 7 7 144 11,7 %
Engines 12 26 4 9 10 11 25 27 8 6 138 11,2 %
Reactors 9 9 6 13 10 10 10 19 9 11 106 8,6 %
Shields 17 9 20 9 10 5 16 19 9 6 120 9,8 %
Weapons 22 15 6 13 10 11 20 23 9 6 135 11,0 %
Total 139 165 81 95 104 100 179 202 81 83 1229
11,3 % 13,4 % 6,6 % 7,7 % 8,5 % 8,1 % 14,6 % 16,4 % 6,6 % 6,8 %
Edit: Added new data. From 923 to 1229 components.
Edit: Changed table format, removed formulas and added some links
Message Edited by Resetgun on 04-12-200510:23 PM
Message Edited by Resetgun on 04-13-200506:26 AM
Message Edited by Resetgun on 04-29-2005 09:33 AM
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