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Thread: Killing someone elses Duty Mission

Ryuukon
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:22 pm
#1

So here I am, flying a Black Sun duty in Dant space... Minding my own business, blasting away... All of a sudden someone (who shall remain nameless)in a B-wing swoops in and starts blasting my duty targets. I promptly send him a tell asking himnicelyto stop. After all, it's my mission. I'm on it to grind exp, get loot, and hope for a helmet. He continues to blast away, ignoring me. Killed like 4 of the 7 targets on that spawn.


I look around, and the B-Wing is right behind me obviously waiting for more to spawn. Next round, I killed 3.... I'll admit, the guy is a good pilot being able to hit so often with the gun placements on that B-Wing, but still, it's not his mission. I send him another tell and he tells me to chill out and that he's leaving in a minute.


Next spawn, I get 2 kills.... He then sends me a tell "Thanks for the helmet" and hypers out... At this point, I'm furious. He supposedlylooted a helmet on my duty mission... So here I am, floating in space, cussing up a storm. After taking a moment to get up, smoke a cigarette, and grab a Dew I go back to flying. Off to the next waypoint. I still need exp and cash. No sooner do the mobs spawn than another player (who also shall remain nameless) flies in in an X-wing and starts pounding away at my targets. Again I go through the process of asking him to stop. No response.


It's obvious he's not leaving, so I just head to the space station and land. I don't think I've ever been so mad at people in a game.


If you see someone doing a duty mission, then LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE! They are there for a purpose, not to make things spawn for you!!!



Ryuujin
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Datink_Nieleft
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:33 pm
#2

Strange....I thought Duty mission targets were for the player that spawned them..causing anyone else who hits them to get that annoying buzz indicating you can't attack the target.


I've grinded the tier 4 black sun duties, had people attempt to gank them only to find out they couldn't dmg them


Next time your out doing them and someone tries to gank,..sit back and watch. Unless there is some strange things afoot his blasters will cause 0 dmg to your pre-determined targets. I remember kill stealing in beta was epic and we lobbied for just this type of thing...and thought we got it.


NOW..if you spawn the mission..the targets come out and then you cancel it...they might become fair game to others.Other items such as the lambda shuttle for Havok squadron rebel missions are "public domain" and can be dmg'd by anyone.


And if you are freelance, and doing those tier 4 duty missions out in endor remember that there are natural spawns as well and it is easy to confuse yours with the natural ones (damn new target boxes).



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riotcontrol
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:35 pm
#3

Errrr... what about the "you can't hurt anyone's duty mission spawns" concept? *puzzled* If it happened to you, it must have been a very uncommon bug.



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Kryxal
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:35 pm
#4

For missions, I always use the radar to track my targets anyway ... that leads to another sort of trouble in natural spawns, when you think you're done but are still under attack.



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Datink_Nieleft
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:50 pm
#5






Kryxal wrote:

For missions, I always use the radar to track my targets anyway ... that leads to another sort of trouble in natural spawns, when you think you're done but are still under attack.






Yeah...I hate when the natural spawns leech on to take advantage of the situation. I usually keep track of what my target ships are, and what natural spawns happen to be in the area. If they decide to join the fray they get their engines shot out by me, and I can finish the mission and come back to smite them later (if they don't self destruct).






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Ryuukon
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:53 pm
#6

Well I don't know what happened, but that B-Wing was blowing them up pretty good. The X-Wing only got a couple before I just took off. Was too mad to do anything else. They weren't static spawns unless they spawned after I was at the mission. But if that were the case I would have had alot more Black Sun to kill in the last wave of that waypoint. Maybe I bugged myself worse than I thought flip-flopping between Imp and Reb to get a JSF... I dunno...


But yeah I've had instances where I've gotten that buzzing sound myself. When I do Squadron missions I usually clear out about a 4k space around the waypoint if possible. Having adds jump you isn't a good thing in an already tough fight.





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santoro
Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:55 pm
#7

This happens to me _all_ the time. I didn't have a helmet stolen, but miscellaneous players flying TIEs usually go after my Black Sun spawns :/



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Sylia
Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:27 pm
#8

Well I was in my Opressor the other day, so it couldn't have been me!



But I've done something similar a few times. Not stolen someones duty missions, but.



I have found people here and there fighting blacksuns and taken a couple pot shots at them. Generaly I send a tell first "You doing a duty?" and generaly I get no response. Just to see if they were in fact doing a duty mission, or if they had found a static spawn.


1) Usually I get that buzz telling me they are mission targets and I go back to what I was doing.


2) When I can actually hit them I assume A) It's a static spawn and not a mission spawn B) I pop a waypoint and leave them be then come back later when there's no one there.


I still dunno what was going on with your incedent though, they should not have been able to hit them. Maybe they were same squad or something and got some kinda bug letting them hit them.

In any event the guy probably thanked you for the helmet just to piss you off anyway, chances are nothing droped.

ghostory
Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:21 am
#9

This happened to me when i did my correllian space mission. at the very end of the mission where the npc ships spawn someone was at a dead stop camping the ships as they came in from hyperspace. The ships he was shooting at were cargo ships that needed to be inspected and. I asked him to stop so I could finish my quest and he sais " F off I was here first" Come to find out later that he was a dancer.



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Washell
Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:50 am
#10

Fly out of radar range of the person bugging in on your mission. Once he's killed the current wave the next wave will spawn 1k away from you.

This also works to take the fight away from fps drop inducing nebula and asteroid fields.

Not a perfect solution though.

Loot is generated at the moment of destruction, so if he indeed got a BS helmet it is more then likely you wouldn't have gotten it if you had destroyed that ship. More likely he was, imo wrongly, annoyed by your tells and wanted to leave with a stinging reply.

psikobunny
Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:27 am
#11






ghostory wrote:

This happened to me when i did my correllian space mission. at the very end of the mission where the npc ships spawn someone was at a dead stop camping the ships as they came in from hyperspace. The ships he was shooting at were cargo ships that needed to be inspected and. I asked him to stop so I could finish my quest and he sais " F off I was here first" Come to find out later that he was a dancer.




This was a natural spawn that is used as part of your Storyline mission, not a Spawn created as part of a Duty specifically for you and you alone. That means it's open season, and sometimes people are just jerks.



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Electro5
Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:22 am
#12

Hmm, either it was some static ships thrown into your spawn, or its a pretty nasty bug. I've never had anyone damage my duty mission targets, though they've tried, and I've never been able to shoot others myself. Causes problems if you see someone getting killed but you can't help because they are on a mission and you can't hurt their targets.


Really, you shouldn't be that worried about the helmet thing. The chances he got a helmet are slim, more than likely he was just trying to be more off a jack off to you. The fact that he told you he was leaving in a minute makes it even more unlikely that he got a helmet, unless he is a psychic and somehow forsaw that he was going to get a helmet.




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tuffness55
Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:32 am
#13

that sucks, not much you can do about it though

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