Pilot Archive
Thread: Oppressor NERF: Please undo it!!!!!!
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AnzelVincir
Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:33 pm
#1
OMFG! I slipped into my Oppressor this afternoon for the first time since the patch and I can barely steer! All of a sudden B-Wings are as hard as A-Wings. This thing over-steers so hard I can barely get back to the station to land.
Please put it back the way it was.
Kalano
Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:37 pm
#2
did you change your engine? and are you trying to fly at full speed or half speed? oh, and did you change your mouse/joystick settings at all? i find if the settings are off, ever ship flies like a brick.
Ezis
Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:57 pm
#3
I see absolutely no problem with the new patch when it comes to the oppressor. Granted, it was taking me longer to down tier 5 a-wings in kessel, but that's partially due to my lack of experience with my joystick (was using an xbox controller)... I've been goin against tier 3-5 opponents with not much difficulty whatsoever. Only problems i ran into were tier 5 a-wings in kessel as stated above, but those have always been a pain to hit.
1st_Viduus
Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:59 am
#4
I''m actually in agreement with this sentiment.
I've had the same engine in my opp. since 3 patches ago.
They played with one aspect of the inertia, so that it seems 'realistic' under acceleration/deceleration, yet they 'played with' the physics and hull properties for behavior under 'neutral' & 'less than' conditions, and the physics engine just can't seem to figure it out. One set of rules under xx/yy*zz, another for x/y*z -- just makes no sense, not to me and not to the machine.
What we end up with is a ship that can roll completely over in .15 seconds if you time your counterbalance just right... or a ship that will go in any direction you *don't* please to go under any other conditions, unless it happens to be co-incidental.
Very annoying behavior, to see inertia (which was well done in the original JtL release, and borked further each patch thereafter, where it was applied) be hit-and-miss when you come to the throttle point where the engine decides it will disregard it (usually resulting in a yo-yo-maneuver from the pilot)....
Devs, either we HAVE inertia or we DON'T have inertia. Quit trying to balance sim and arcade and decide on one; your efforts to play the balance is frustrating all of us.
sharde64
Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:49 am
#6
with my YT-1300 i find this alot it just seems to sway abit i dunno why but i spose my YT is not a starfighter although sometimes i tend to fly it like one but im runnign on a 84 top speed 71 for the rest
psikobunny
Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:06 am
#7
I'm betting your control settings got wiped. JtL has had trouble holding onto preferences anyway, and a problem day like yesterday nothing would surprise me.
VemaGara
Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:56 am
#8
I was flying my opressor in deep space last night. I had no problems with my control. I noticed nothing different.
What I did notice different was that the wing sizes had increased, so suddenly I found myself flying against six B-wings instead of three. I also found so many corvettes and gunships that I could barely move.
What I did notice different was that the wing sizes had increased, so suddenly I found myself flying against six B-wings instead of three. I also found so many corvettes and gunships that I could barely move.
sumner
Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:15 am
#9
I didn't notice any change in the handling of my oppressor last night, but I did notice the Deep Space beefup noted above. I would go after a b-wing and I'd have 3 more on my tail lighting me up with missiles, and a few x-wings too, it was rough!
Kitten_Starsider
Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:20 am
#10
My B-Wing oversteers all the time...
Maybe the Oppressor was bugged before? (the NPC ones were for sure they could outmaneuver my A-wing back when they put in jousting again)
It is hard to compare sometimes from the real stats and the actual stats.
Kitten
Ducimus
Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:49 pm
#11
Well i took my oppressor up for a quick spin around station and waxed a few tier 1's after reading this thead to see if i noticed anything.
I didn't really notice anything. The opressor had a little slop in it before, but it wasnt anything unmanagable. After reading this thread, it sounded like we'd have our very own version of B wing handling, and i don't think thats the case. I havent flown my oppresor in a few days, but i didnt notice anything out of the ordinary.
I didn't really notice anything. The opressor had a little slop in it before, but it wasnt anything unmanagable. After reading this thread, it sounded like we'd have our very own version of B wing handling, and i don't think thats the case. I havent flown my oppresor in a few days, but i didnt notice anything out of the ordinary.
Rockasocks
Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:27 pm
#12
if i use the booster on my YT and stop it in mid turn/roll, it ignore the current roll and flys straight and then will go off in it's own direction or ignore any movements from my joystick until i flip the throttle around
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