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I don't necessarily think multiplayer ships should have more powerful guns than fighters, however they definitely should be able to take more damage than fighters.

I usually don't fly with a crew in my YT because I can bring to bear more firepower with my Krayt with just me flying it and I also have the option to bring more power with a second person in the turret.

Basically it boils down to there not being a big advantage to using a multiplayer ship over the fighters. To be effective in the multiplayer ships you need at least 4 people, idealy 5. In my Krayt I only need myself.

I'd love to fly with a crew, it would be a blast, but realistically if I'm not out there to goof off with friends theres no point to take it out.

Don't really need more powerful guns but maybe a second shield, or a more powerful shield and have it where the turrets don't move constantly with the ship. Many gunners either have a hard time adapting to the constant movement and cannot hit anything or they get sick and can't do it for very long.

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Bronski113 wrote:
Don't really need more powerful guns but maybe a second shield, or a more powerful shield and have it where the turrets don't move constantly with the ship. Many gunners either have a hard time adapting to the constant movement and cannot hit anything or they get sick and can't do it for very long.

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This is the god's honest truth here. I once manned the turret on Smuggler_Caylin's Krayt and I was very honestly near the point of vomiting. I guess vomit makes the grass grow....

I've been a gunner on a y-wing and I did ok. Mainly I just shot the same target as the pilot and shot at anything coming up in the rear.

I can see how people would get sick after a while.

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Ternque01 wrote:

The Corvette would rip one of these multiplayer ships up like cotton candy at a state fair.

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That was us last night. My friends and I were up in the decimator and though hey! lets go overt and rake in some faction.

Went to Kessel and loaded right over the corvette. We were dead before we knew what hit us.

It was hella fun though. After I got over the motion sickness, of course.

You just have to understand that when you go up in a MP ship you are at a SEVERE disadvantage, vs NPC's and players alike. You use the same components that all the much smaller and faster fighters use and you are limited to 2 guns (that can rarely if ever fire at the same thing unless yer camping a static spawn). Combine this with the fact that you literally cannot miss one of these big ships when shooting at them and you can see what im talking about. Dont get me wrong I LOVE my YT and Nova courier but they just are not effective for use in a serious combat role. Its FAR more effective for everyone to go up in seperate fighters. There is just no debate about it, its the cold hard truth.

Yes you can kill stuff while using an MP ship, i have done it and still do it with a small crew. A good crew goes a long way to making these beasts a tad bit more useful. But when we go up we do so understanding we are at a severe disadvantage.

With that said, there are a few good uses of MP ships in my opinion.
- Helping lower level pilots level-up faster
- Ferrying a crew of pilots that need the master badge in kessel while others in the group take the vette out.

Some quick fixes for MP ships to make them a serious consideration for combat use:
- Extend the range of turrets by 50%
- Have modifiers (built into the chasis) apply to components that are dropped in them to increase their effectiveness. A flat 3x modifier to gun damage, shield strength/recharge, and armor HP would be about right.
- Allow passengers to reload missile launchers and chaff while in flight.
- Allow ALL components except armor to be repaired while in flight.
- Allow other friendly player ships (single seaters and MP alike) to dock with an MP ship. Once docked players could get on board the MP ship if they liked. When a single seater docked and the pilot boards the MP ship his ship would autopilot(ie; hyper out) to the closest station/starport.

Message Edited by Skuzz on 03-31-2005 09:40 AM

Message Edited by Skuzz on 03-31-2005 09:41 AM

on the part about docking and haveing the crew of the other ship come on board, insted of there ship being hypered out to the closest station, ethere the mp ship can pull the other ship behind it untill they read the station where the ship can be landed or the fighter is kept in a docking bay, say maybe 3 pilots can have there fighters docked in the bay on your ship, there would be a launch terminal on the ship some where so they could leave at any time.
if the ship the has your ship in it loggs or crashes then your fighter transfered to the nearest station and you are placed on the ground of the closest planet.

this way you could have your escort on board untill they are needed also it would allow pilots in disabled ships a chance to dock and get repairs in space.

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Ternque01 wrote:

I post from a standpoint of curiosity. Does anyone regularly man and use these multiplayer ships? Only having two guns that are only capable of being awkwardly controlled doesn't seem really quite worth it.

Even still, for a ship of their size, I've only found armor plating up to 2k, and shields up to the same. The Corvette would rip one of these multiplayer ships up like cotton candy at a state fair.

Of course, you could judge me at "sucking" at using them, but I honestly need to know if anyone finds any sort of utility in them. If you do, could you say what equipment you use, your tactics, and other hints at making these things effective? Thank you

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I don't see any advantage these ships have over fighters atm. Even if they could have the pilot control all parts of the ship and have the guns fire forward, they wouldn't hold a candle to any fighter in the game. They are a HUGE target and handle like a slug.

I think the turret stations should control multiple guns on the top and bottom. Mabye 4 guns mounted on the top and 4 on the bottom. When someone goes into the turret and fires, all 4 guns fire at that target. Each gun would be same power and ability as the one weapon mounted in the weapon slot. This would at least give the ship a reasonable chance at hitting incoming fighters.

And give the co-pilot a set of guns as well. The pilot/co-pilot job is really boring compared to controlling a turret. If you combined their jobs and made the co-pilot another gunner with his own set of turrets you'd have 3 gunners and 1 pilot, if things start exploding inside the co pilot or one of the other gunners can respond. That way no one person can respond with a 4 person crew and not take VITAL functionality with him.

Shields and armor need to have boosted performance. Some want new loot and special components just for multiplayer ships. I'd rather not see loot that isn't usable in all ships, and rather see bonus's given to ships that should be getting more performance out of defensive systems. I think MP ships need a 20x-30x boost to shields and armor.

If you don't make these ships have an extreme advantage like this there is no point for 4 players being trapped in one ship (Only 2 being able to shoot) vs 4 players flying their own master ships with far more fire power, control, and versatility.

Message Edited by LoNe-R on 03-31-2005 02:01 PM