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Thread: This would make a good-sized Imperial PC-controlled capship:

KaylBreinhar
Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:01 pm
#1

Immobiliser-class Frigate

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Has the iconic shape, but it's only 600m long. If the gravity wells worked...well...that'd be griefing, but it'd be AWESOME.



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JoKen_Jash
Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:23 pm
#2

Um, dude, I don't know who gave you that name, but that's an INTERDICTOR class starship, essentially designed for the sheer purpose of pulling people out of hyperspace and keeping them there. And, as far as the size, it's still WAAAAAY too big, consideringthe difference of over 400 meters between the 'Vette and the Interdictor. I'll bet you that would be a long, boring, laggish ship to navigate unless they cut down on the interior space a lot more than what they normally do. I'd rather just see frigate sized star destroyers and cal cruisers. Mon Cal cruisers I can see, they had all different sorts of those lying around. And I'm certain it wouldn't be too farfetched for the Empire to slim down the star destroyer design to make a patrol ship/light assault capital ship.



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KaylBreinhar
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:07 am
#3

Nope - there's QUITE a size-difference between an Interdictor and an Immobiliser, but I thank you for the long-winded attempt to imply that I can't read. An Immobiliser is only 600m long, and is a FRIGATE-class ship, not a full-sized Interdictor. Try opening the second link.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-07-2005 04:08 AM



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KaylBreinhar
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:12 am
#4

Here's a nice full-picture view of all known and 'discovered' Imperial warships past and present. The Immobiliser from the initial link is the small sliver directly under the Executor's bow.

Directly behind it and down and to the left a little bit more is the 900m-long VSD, giving a cross-section that the ship in question is, in fact, even smaller than them.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-07-2005 04:12 AM

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-07-2005 04:15 AM



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Dromag67
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:13 am
#5


Heres my attempt, and yes I will use your own information against you.


This frigate-sized special-purpose vessel was the first warship of the Imperial Starfleet to be produced with gravity well generators as standard weaponry. The interdiction fields generated by these ships inhibit or terminate hyperdrive travel for other ships in the vicinity. A tiny and cheap vessel in comparison to most modern warships, the Immobiliser is also under-gunned for its size. Commanders of these ships avoid engagement with significant enemy warships as standard practice. Instead the interdictor will usually remain on the periphery of the battle zone, preventing the hyperjump escape of enemy vessels during coordinated actions with genuine combat ships and starfighter squadrons. Immobilisers are also used in picket and blockade operations, drawing starships from hyperspace for inspection by other naval foreces.


They arent useful in combat, and since it is only a rather small vicinity for the gravity well cones, it really is no use in SWG, unless you used the full sized interdictor, in that case it would be too big.


Awesome to have a tiny cheap and under-gunned vessel?


I think not.


edit: This is a picket ship, not a capital ship.

Message Edited by Dromag67 on 06-07-2005 04:16 AM




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KaylBreinhar
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:21 am
#6

I was offering up the hull mostly as a "huh???" thing. If they put in unique capships for factions, they should be emblematic of the faction they represent.

For Imperials, that's the ISD design, and the ship graphic I showed is the smallest vessel that still holds true to that design in canon. Ditch the gravity wells and stick some batteries on there, and you've got yourself a nice little picket ship design that has that "mini-ISD" vibe to it.

For Rebels, obviously something with a bent towards Mon Calamari or CEC design would be more iconic, but the Corvette is already in the game.

For privateers, perhaps the Ye-4 would suffice. It'd fit, as Corsec flies them, and they're about as true-neutral as a faction can get.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-07-2005 04:22 AM



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Dromag67
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:28 am
#7






KaylBreinhar wrote:
I was offering up the hull mostly as a "huh???" thing. If they put in unique capships for factions, they should be emblematic of the faction they represent.

For Imperials, that's the ISD design, and the ship graphic I showed is the smallest vessel that still holds true to that design in canon. Ditch the gravity wells and stick some batteries on there, and you've got yourself a nice little picket ship design that has that "mini-ISD" vibe to it.

For Rebels, obviously something with a bent towards Mon Calamari or CEC design would be more iconic, but the Corvette is already in the game.

For privateers, perhaps the Ye-4 would suffice. It'd fit, as Corsec flies them, and they're about as true-neutral as a faction can get.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-07-2005 04:22 AM





We should all realize that besides the Corvette and the ISD they will make up their own ships anyways.


Out of the thousands of EU and Canon designs they will probably just make up their own crap.






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GileHarleen
Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:46 am
#9

I'd settle for a Nebulon-B. I think even the Corvette would be spacious enough for everyone. It'd even need to be toned down quite a bit to make it serviceable when components start to explode.


As for the Interdictor, I think that'd be a cool NPC addition. Having to 'clear' your hyperspace with an Imperial force. Mmm, canony.



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MasterofKatana
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:01 pm
#10

As a rebel, any capital ship under Imperial control is fine for me, I like new ships for target practice


But seriously, I think a Corvette-sized ISD would be fine, Interdictor/Immobiliser with the gravity well generators would kinda be weird, and could be used for griefing, so thats a no-go. However, a dreadnaught cruiser might work well, as it is about the size of a corvette with just about the same firepower. For you freelancers out there, I'd say something like a Republic assault ship would do nicely. In the screenshots for the upcoming RTS Empire at War, there are many screenshots of the Imperials using Republic Assault Cruisers, so why not the freelancers? I'll repost with a better one for the freelancers once I find it.


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KaylBreinhar
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:27 pm
#11

Well, the Interdictor HAS no gravity wells. It's based off the Immobiliser, but instead of the wells, it packs firepower.



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KJFett3
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:51 pm
#12






KaylBreinhar wrote:
Well, the Interdictor HAS no gravity wells. It's based off the Immobiliser, but instead of the wells, it packs firepower.




It was the Enforcer that had no gravity wells because they were pulled out. The Interdicter-Class has gravity wells and suprisingly enough; matches the description of the Immobilizer. /shrug.


I beleive what we are seeing here is a website that has either misidentified the ship, or the ship has developed the 2 names. If you played the old game Rebellion, you will immediatly associate that drawing and the description to the Interdictor-Class that Admiral Tharwn used in the books.



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