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Thread: In Praise Of The YT1300 (With One Minor Flaw)

Mystique2000uk
Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:57 pm
#1




There has been a lot of debate on this board about the merits or otherwise of the YT1300 and weather its interior design matches the movie or not.

When I got mine the other day I decided to try to decorate the in game model as close to the falcon as I could with the items available in the game.

After doing some research and scouring the galaxy for as many things as I could find that match screenies from the movies here is the result.

http://www.aartanridge.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9085


Lastly I took a shot from the set of the falcon and compared it to the same location in game.


http://www.darkangel.plus.com/images/Misc/Claw/falccomp%20(Small).jpg


I came up with the following conclusion. The interior rooms of the YT are too big in game. If you look at the set you can see the chair is much bigger than its in game version and also the YT pasanger lounge also is to small if you compare the height of your chracter in game with that of people in the movie you can see that the interior rooms in game are just to big.


I think SOE did a grand job in realising this ship with all it's inconsistancies from fill to film and the problem of scale with the interior set not matching the exteriro size, but if they could have made the rooms smaller they would have given room to put in a few more.



That being said this is a positive post as I simply love my YT and wouldnt be with out it for a second. Now all I need is the abbility to lock the turets forward so I can fire them from the pilots seat and also overide the ops station and I'm good to go.

Message Edited by Mystique2000uk on 07-31-2005 01:15 AM



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EtsIch
Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:08 pm
#2

Nicely done, kudos to you.



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Zotux
Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:30 pm
#3

Now thats dedication to a cause!!!!


Good work with all that. the screenies are good, and I actually had to take a doubletake to see which was from game or movie!!!


10 thumbs up!!!






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ChemicalBrother
Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:07 pm
#4

Man, that is sweet! I didn't know that decorating could be so extensive.



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Yoda-5499
Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:10 pm
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Mystique2000uk
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:19 am
#6

He he thanks for that mate, I gave up after half an hour of this daft board saying that my html was invalid code.



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entrailsgalore2
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:53 am
#7

I remember readign a website a few yearsback( dont htink teh website is up anymore) but it explained alot of flaws with the yt-1300....how the interrior does not match up with the exterior and how in the movies the ship is smaller on the outside compared to teh actors than it wa son the inside. The model they crafted for the outside shots was I believe 10%-20% smaller than it shoul dhave been. But the games version fixed some of the interior flaws, but the interior does look a little different than the movie...ill explain why i think it looks different soon..


flaw 1: the loading ramp where the passengers would enter and exit the vehidle was too low. Its supposed to be the same level as the floor of the enterior when closed but when you look at the ship in the front, the ramp is actually a little lower than the flor..so in order for that to work the ramp would have to extend atleast a foot extra higher inside, but clearly in the movies( especially a new hope and empire) we can se ethat it doesnt.



flaw 2: the cockpit is raised slightly higher on the outside but on the inside the entrance to the cockpit is on the same level with the rest of the floor and the ramp door..which doesnt make any sense.The cockpit level is atleast 2-3 feet higher than the ramp door and about 1 foot higher than the interior level.


flaw 3: the entry to the turrets in the movie are directly adjacent to the cockpit entry hallway, and when you enter the guns are facing the same way (IE: in a new hope, they crawling in and the guns were facing forward) so that would mean that the guns would have to hang directly the oposite direction as the cokpit which would have the guns facing towards the left side of the ship( probably around a 120 degree angale) but the guns are always facing the front in the movies.


flaw 4: in a new hope one of the imperial troopers mentioned that "many" of the escape pods have been jetisoned...but when iresearched this most sites would claim that the two side main rings( above the ramp door) were the escape pods...but they were still there in the movies....so where on the ship are the escape pods? and how many did the falcon have?


Those were the main flaws I remebered reading about but there were actualy a few more than that. In order for the ramp to bring the passengers to teh same level as the interrior the ramp would have to have a ladder or extend up inside about one more foot. And in order for the inside to reach the same level as the cockpit there would have to be anotehr ladder or ramp which inclined when you entered the cockpit. And in order for the lasers to be facing forward when you ente rthe entrance to the turrets would have to be in the rear of the ship, not ajacent to the cockpit. And the escape pods...Im not exactly sure, ive read many different things fromd ifferent sites.


So if you noticed that in SWG the yt-1300 has two ramps when you enter the cockpit which fixed one flaw..since the cockpit is not on teh same level as the rest of the hull it sits slightly higher. And they moved the turretsto the other side of the ship, which doesnt exactly fix the 3rd flaw but you have to rememebr, the yt-1300 is a STOCK light freighter...its straight from the factory. It is stock, no changes made whatsoever.


Han Solo's Millennium Falcon is a HEAVILY MODIFIED yt-1300 so it is NOTSTOCK at all...so Han( or lando) might have changed the interior to better fit smuggleing purposed hence a mini med center and beds, more rooms and engine compartments( han had a bigger engine which probably needed more maintanence so he added more rooms to access certain parts of the engine alot more esily..he can repair his engine while on the run as aposed to having to land and do most of the repairs, but im sure when he doe sland like in a new hope hell still repairs the outside as well). and of course han ( or lando) added smuggling compartments too. SO in SWG, what we see is a STOCK yt-1300, not the same floor plan as the falcon....atleats thats just what I think. But it would make sense..I mean how many tricked out import cars like a honda civic do you see in magazines or even in rl look EXACTLY the same as a stock version of that model car? Also, I think the DEVs wanted to give players the option to upgrade thier yt-1300 and decorate it..so why not justgive us a big circle with spacious rooms so we have alot more freedom to decorate our ships the way we want them. Personanly I like the way hans was decorated so I modeled my yt after his...although only the front room is done. But they should add the option to upgrade the floor plans, basic or stock floor plan, then floor plan 1, plan2, plan3 etc and it would cost pilot prestige that way we would have to work for it, wouldnt just be handed...and would give pilots who have 30 mill+ prestidge like me a reason to even gain it otehr than entering deep space....and that way players ships would be mor eunique and when you walke don a nova, it might be different than your nova or yt or decimator..


but those are just my oppinions...if anyone can find that site, let me know please



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Yoda-5499
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:58 am
#8

Just thought this might help. Gives information on the Falcon and on the standard YT-1300. Also a few blueprints.

YT-1300 Corellian Transport

Millennium Falcon



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entrailsgalore2
Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:04 am
#9

Thank you, that helps with my point that Hans ship is modified and so is his interrior...sinc ehis ship is bigger, it take sup more space inside so he has more rooms to fix it or upgrade or do whatever. And it also show sthat on the insid eteh ship is big, on the outsid ethe ship is small...I think I read somewhere that when they were build the exteriors falcon set the blueprints the builders had on the falcon were wrong and were not to the scale they shoul dhave been...but I can udnerstand that since mr lucas was under a tight budget and a time contstraint, he didnt want to re-build the entire thing and have the schematics rewritten so im guessing he just decided to leave it as is.



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