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Thread: WTB Master Ace title. No effort required
LeaphChausew wrote:
/shrug.
They can have their titles, but at the end of the day Ace whatever Pilot as a title counts for nothing and we all know that.
Badges and titles are nothing, reputation is somthing however.
just make sure you are amply and at least fairly compensated unless you are good friends with the person
hypocrisacy note - I'm gonna be doing the vaksai and heavy X for a friend in morning
He claims that he already has a master pilot on another server but is showing his ignorance straight away by not realising he cant just "grind" his way through tier 3.
I'm all for helping people do the corvette or the relics quests cos they can be a bit if a pain even for an ace under certain conditions but not a "WHOLE" profession.
You know sometimes I think us pilots can be a little big for our boots but posts like this make me realise we're not just all ego, we actually like our profession and will do anything to preserve it.
Message Edited by Isamu-alva on 09-28-2005 01:11 PM
I did read his response, but it made no sense to me. First, people make toons on other servers all the time for the purpose of flying. I've never seen anyone say "hey, I'm coming to Startsider, can you grind out an ace for me?" Second, if you really have 4 mil and you are an ace on another server, why would you even waste time finding someone to grind foryou? It would be faster and easier to buy a ship and do it yourself. Third, what was his plan, to go AFK in the back seat? You still have to get the mission, go to the startport and launch. I also think that there are some things only the mission owner can do, correct? So what would be the point? His says he just wants to play, but isn't that pretty much the game, grinding in one form or another? Outside of PvP, that's it for us.
My rule is simple, for guildies, anything. For others, whatever ever I can do as time permits. I'm not trying to be elitist, I just get tired of being attacked by some nugget in normal space when I'm anonymous, then getting a tell asking why they can't kill me. 
People need to learn their professions if for no other reason than to not annoy the rest of us. You can't do that from the backseat.
/reply to nugget Because space is skill based, practice, practice, practice!
Reply to posts about people wanting their grinding/missions done for them: none at all.
Why bother, other then an easy kill in deep space followed by apost about dmg reduction in pvp you'll never see them again. So why get aggrevated about it. It's their game, if they want to spend millions on getting pilot, let them. It hardly impacts our game.
Aenit wrote:
KaylBreinhar wrote:
I've gotten to a point where I only help friends and friends of friends on missions now (and that doesn't include people who think said peripheral position means I'm their space **edit**). Not that it's been a tremendous problem in the past three months - I've been in absentia for the past three months - collecting close to 500 pieces of L1-L8 loot per night...sometimes more, it depends on if I can kill that little warm center of rationality and monotony in my brain....
As for xp grinding, I only have one rule: keep up. I can waste a hard-target T3 in six seconds (and that's only because my third L10 isn't ready for prime time, otherwise it'd be closer to three seconds), a hard target T5 in ~15-20. If they can't get the minimum 10% damage required for xp in in that timeframe, they need to spend more time on their ships and learn about the bugged joys of WO3.
I have little to no tolerance anymore of Prototype ship and T1-2 grinders, too lazy/unwilling to do even the FIRST duty missions to learn the mechanics of flying (or, as I've said many times before...I have a sense of humility - this isn't flying - rather learning to MOVE THE MOUSE instead of punching a macro), wanting me to wait 20-30 seconds (or more) for them to get in 10% damage on a hard-target so THEY can benefit and my farming ability suffers.
Simply put, I don't exist for the free exploitation of others. If they can keep up, great. If they can't, they actually have to w..wwww..wwwwwWORK at it until they do. It's not my problem, and don't try sending me hate tells - thankfully /ignore still works in space. And to those who would villify me or any others that adopt this stance, they can stuff it up their pretentious asses. JTL might be a "newbie money mini-game, only good for a badge" for SOE and a large portion of the playerbase, but it's OUR profession, and I'm tired of being treated like the custodians for a bunch of stuck-up ground players who view Aces as Danny Glovers to drive their Miss Daisy asses up to a title they didn't earn.
And yeah, I know I'm a pretentious [son of an unwed mother, Damn you ModBot] as well, and back in the day I had to rely on help for two missions in particular on my climb to Ace. But that was seven days after JTL launched - when ships were astronomically expensive and the resources to make them and their components were barely adequate. Nowadays you can actually make FLYABLE ships out of the crafted lines...so there's little to no excuse for such laziness and sloth. Making Ace nowadays has been made so blindingly easy for the newbies, mostly because it's become quite clear that's what JTL was meant for primarily to begin with...newbies. It's why we have the Heavies, the upgraded SW-made equipment, it's why we have the Bel-22 and JSF, and it's why they'll never, EVER, go away or change.
The simple truth: JTL is a "neat little minigame" that JUST might keep all those CURIOUS pepole who were supposed to learn about this game through osmosis since it wasn't advertised BEFORE Ep3's release, but rather after, when most people's Star Wars hangovers were over. The only reason it got any attention at all was because they had to sex up SOMETHING that'd keep the newbies interested.
Of course, to SOME of us, JTL *ISN'T* just some "neat little minigame" meant to give newbies a way to grind 100k here and there. It's become a way to support ourselves, and more importantly, a place to carve a niche in a game where everyone seems to want to move toward almost TOTAL uniformity. Space, if you can forgive the pun, is the final unfettered frontier from the ravages of a game where the Developers pretty much caved to corporate interference and allowed everyone and their uncle to strive towards an endgame that has been cheapened SO much that it's a PAINFUL sight to behold.
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I still find it utterly amusing and at the same time depressing that some people are/were willing to do six months plus of GRUELING ground-game grinding to get a glowstick, but a max weeklong space grind is "too hard." People are so goddamned eager to be like everyone else when they're ignoring the only realm where you can truly STAND OUT anymore.
...and they won't stop until they ruin space, too.Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 09-28-2005 12:41 AM
rawr!
You should see him when he's in a BAD mood.
Smerk wrote:
I think it's best to just ignore posts like that. Remember, your comment, and the resulting argument, is keeping his offer bumped.
Normally, I would have. But it was just that kind of day for me, and I was feeling a little onery. I know it's just a game, but I had just had enough of people wanting someone to wipe their butts for them. In another few years, "Professional Food Chewer/Butt Wiper" will be the "hot" career of the decade. But then I imagine someone will just start selling phony certs for it on the Net.
In any case, I'm back to my lovable self today...
Message Edited by FeydmanKassan on 09-28-2005 11:51 AM
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