Pilot Archive

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Julak wrote:
i find it interesting how some people claim that the eta and the bel are unbalanced and such and are banned form PvP events, i dont get why, why not fight fire with fire? i mena come on if oyu beleive yourself to good to lfy an eta or something becasue you think it is unbalanced, but you get beat by an eta, then wouldnt you not be good enough? so just fight fire with fire and shut up

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LeaphChausew wrote:

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Halyn wrote:

The Vaksai is actually seldom seen on Starsider;

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And any other server in pvp to be honest.

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Raja_Asenn wrote:

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LeaphChausew wrote:

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Halyn wrote:

The Vaksai is actually seldom seen on Starsider;

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And any other server in pvp to be honest.

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It's a key point of discussion here because we have rather a lot of them on Lowca. Out of 24 pilots engaged at peak-time during our last event, I believe we had 8 in vaksais. No few of which were doing pretty interesting things with crafted engines, I might add.

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LeaphChausew wrote:

You're lying..

But seriously, really? Wow ok. I must admit, I never played on Lowca. I've been around a bit, but not so far a field. Crafted engine + Vaksai says to me hit and run tactics? Am I right or hideously wrong?

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Catman-Does wrote:
Apparently the Vaksai slides around like crazy - I've yet to do the quest for mine

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I'm looking forward to trying out my alt's. I have a lvl 10 engine with 99 speed and 83 r,p,y lined up for it. Along with EO4, a lvl 10 weapon and lvl 8 reward shield I think it may be a nasty ship. It'll be interesting to see if I can have as much success with it as I do my A-wing. That'll be a pretty accurate test to see how balanced the ship is. If I do worse in it with pvp than my A-wing would that make my A-wing unbalaced? My theory is that Vaksai + lvl 10 engine + lvl 10 weapon + lvl 8 shield + its somewhat huge profile might nearly keep up with my A-wing + lvl 8 engine + lvl 8 weapon + lvl 7 shield if I'm flying them both.

You all have good points. But ponder this. I read the post of how everyone was wearing composte armor before CU.

I like the deversity of diffrent ships. Some are fast, some pack lots of fire power, some are easy to hit, some are hard to hit.

How would you as a developer simulate these conditions?

Let us look at the Elete Red Guard TieInterceptor (RGI), Some say the hit box is too small. That may be true or .... the devs are simulating the inate difficulty of hitting this ship. Sure you could say if the pilots was so good he could dodge incomming fire. But with space not having any dodge modifacations , this may be what the devs did for this special ship instead of making a JSF type ship with all the bells and whisals that a vast and powerful empire could make. Missils are the counter to his ship. You do not like to use missils? That is up to you , that is not the Devs fault. You had better be carrying counter measures becuase missils are in the game to be used. You do not write the rules of war. The game and the Devs do.

As for the JSF , anyone can get it. just have to be a spy againt the empire for a short time. then you get to keep it. I guess the Hvy x-wing is not enought. For the IMP pilots, the JSF it the heavy fighter. For the rebs it is there manuvable fighter. The point is , for some reason the devs allow both sides to fly it. Think about it. Balance.

Just because I do not like the Rebs having a ship that is a flyingtank Corsair I ( ww2) ( hvy x-wing) and our ships are like old jap zeros. does that mean I can change the rules and say no firing on our first head on pass? Heck, no. I make a tactic to fight a ship with will kill me with one shot and make sure he does not land that one shot. And he makes a tactic that makes sure I do not get behind him but he gets in that one shot to kill me. That is how war and skill are mated. We do not tell God that his is bull dodo and it needs to change. We fix it ( while complaning to God , but know it is our place to change and win.

The truth is .... not everyting is balanced. In THE GREAT WAR. The Fokker scooge killed lots of allied pilots until we learned to shoot between the propeller. IN WW2 the jap zeros were getting trashed buy the new US fighters. Rare is the time when things are balance because you are trying to out do the enemy not just match him.

For Kettemoor, the only outright banned ships are the RG TIE, the JEF and the Bel. One of our most fervent wishes is to have the Devs fix the hitbox on the RG TIE, because the Imperials have every right to a ship that's the equal of the Vaksai and Heavy X-Wing, both of which are regularly seen in PvP over there. At the same time, we also have some pretty diverse types. We have people who fly Nova Couriers, TIE Bombers, TIE Oppressors, TIE Advanced, Heavy TIEs, B-Wings, Rhix, Khryrz, Dunelizards and even the occassional Y-Wing.

What we've done once that worked REALLY well was to do a Tier 3 Chassis Battle. No one was allowed to use chassis over Tier 3 and we specifically excluded the Heavy Starters.

That was a fun one.

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Halyn wrote:

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Julak wrote:
i find it interesting how some people claim that the eta and the bel are unbalanced and such and are banned form PvP events, i dont get why, why not fight fire with fire? i mena come on if oyu beleive yourself to good to lfy an eta or something becasue you think it is unbalanced, but you get beat by an eta, then wouldnt you not be good enough? so just fight fire with fire and shut up

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The problem with that is that most of us don't want composite-in-space syndrome--a reference to the fact that, pre-CU, everyone wore composite armor. And I mean *everyone*.

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Message Edited by CityHall on 10-03-2005 08:50 AM

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rogue_eight wrote:


Personally, from what I've read, I'm a little more concerned about the Y8 and it's 4 turrets with the new changes in Pub 24...

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JanuHull wrote:

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I'm not, even with 9k shields, and 7.5k armor, that thing is the size of a mountain with only one, maybe two effective rear firing weapons.

I'm really not concerned at all.

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