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Thread: The One Pre-Nerf

Vegitaa
Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:47 am
#14

Damn happy you're on our side buddy!!! LMAO!



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TomoRainer
Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:51 pm
#15



MasterofKatana wrote:
/drool
I wouldn't want to face you with that engine in their Tomo
Doesn't look like I got much of a choice if you PvP a lot on Starsider...*gulp*





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Nooca
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:08 pm
#16

If you don't mind me asking, what was the pre RE mass of your lightest engine? and what was the pre RE PYR? I have one I am saving up for as well, and since I already have one that is pretty good, PYR 68-71, I can wait a long timehehe.... Thanks in advance...



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Zeon_Zaku
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:12 pm
#17

Wow, beautiful. Congrats.



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psikobunny
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:47 pm
#18

Tomo's best pre RE engine was just a shade under 8100 mass. He posted it the other day in another thread, but it's also pretty easy to reverse the math.



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TomoRainer
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:53 pm
#19



Nooca wrote:
If you don't mind me asking, what was the pre RE mass of your lightest engine? and what was the pre RE PYR? I have one I am saving up for as well, and since I already have one that is pretty good, PYR 68-71, I can wait a long timehehe.... Thanks in advance...





Lesse.. recalculate its current values, and it looks like 8052.8 mass, 69.6 pitch, 68.8 yaw, and 68.7 roll. Energy drain was the same, of course, as that stat's bugged and doesn't get an RE bonus.

I've never personally seen lower mass or energy drain stats, but I've seen one un-RE'd level 6 with a pitch of 70.3. You'd need a pre-RE PYR of 69.2 to hit 72, and 70.2 to hit 73, long as I've got the calculator open.







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Wraith-X
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:59 pm
#20

Sheesh. I don't want to go up against that thing.


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Ducimus
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:09 pm
#21


Wraith-X wrote:
Sheesh. I don't want to go up against that thing.




I have to wonder if he'd end up flying circles around his opponent, literally Fast engine is not *always* to your advantage... in theory. A turn is comprised of two axis of movment. Foward veloicty , and yaw and/or pitch. In theory, the more forward veloicty you have the more space you travel over while pitching/yawing, hence in theory his turn circle would be larger by virtue of said forward velocity.

Since im being theoritical, im guessing he's barely pulling 1.3 YPR on chassis accleration, acutally ill wager its still 1.2 as 74+ YPR seems to be the break point for 1.3 YPR. So im theorizing that someone with a .1 higher chassis YPR accleration rate at a slighly slower top speed, could infact be inside his turn circle assuming both pilots are running the same level overload.


All theory of course, im bored, and could be completely full theoritical BS today, which is likely the case

Message Edited by Ducimus on 04-15-2005 07:14 PM



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TomoRainer
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:36 pm
#22

Speed can be a big liability. When I get behind a player Y-Wing, or a particularly slow X-Wing, sometimes I have to slow down so much my handling's actually worse than theirs. Even if I can effectively stick on their tail, it leaves me pretty vulnerable for the time it takes to dust them, which can be a surprisingly long time when I'm packing a single level 6 (well, now 7) cannon. In situations like this, a post-nerf level 6 would actually be better than the pre-nerf speed.

Oh yeah, and heaven help me if I miscalculate and accidentally fly in front of a sluggish fighter I'm trying to tail.

My ship's primarily built as a scout, an A-Wing hunter-killer, and a vessel that'll keep me alive so I can best lead the squad if I'm put in charge of one, and in those roles it does very well. In other roles, it's got holes in its game, but the fact even a highly-modified light fighter like this can't do everything is part of what I like most about JTL.







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Kitten_Starsider
Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:20 am
#23

I seriously wished now i wouldn't have ruined my own prenerf reward engine... but through a friend i was able to at least borrow me one with more or less competative stats.


It's far from your engine though... will be a pain to go up against you


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JediNg
Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:30 am
#24

Nice prenerf. Too bad your turn radius would be enormous.



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KaylBreinhar
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:02 pm
#25

You've got me beat on pitch, mass, drain, and yaw, but I've still got my trusty 72.6 post-RE L6, plus an un-REed one on the backburner.



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Merrybelle
Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:05 pm
#26


Gratz on a BEAUTIFUL engine Tomo! Patience pays off.....I'm trying to learn that lesson ..lol





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