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Thread: How to solo any mission in SWG:

Ducimus
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:34 am
#14

The secret to soloing anything in SWG can be summerized into one word.


THINK!

Think about what your up against, what your flying , your limits, think about what your doing, and think outside of the box. Just do it quickly, take too long and you'll get pasted, and never panic.

If you ever have a response like, "OMG THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!", you already lost. Your reaction should be, "hmm, that aint working, time to try something else"

Fly smarter, not harder. You always have to be aware of your current situation. You have to be able to sense when your about to get over your head, and how to avoid it.

Another thing is to know your ships, parts, and droid commands. You have to know these things. Any one who seriously decides to make pilot their fulltime SWG professon should know what the stastics are on each ship, by memory, and have a rough idea on how to outfit them.

Once you practice enough, and learn all the proper responses to various threats the game throws at you. The JTL PvE game becomes trivial.



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...has mastered the Pilot profession
AzzixxSWG
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:41 am
#15






PaceNebulon wrote:
has anyone solo'ed the post vette mission from kashyyyk space station. I have had time to try one yet, but I hear they are definitly a challenge and can't be solo'ed even by the best ace.






This is definately a tough one but not impossable to solo. By the time you take on this mish you should know how to disable a vette, if you don't find out and practice on some in Deep Space. When I did it I only had the Opressor.


You do not want to use bomber strike nor do you want to strip the vetts weapons( except weapons 4 & 5 it's harder to get the shields down with the 2 turbo cannons aiming at you) and you want to stop stipping it once you have its engines down. The less components you leave the vette the harder the escort will be.


Now you are escorting the Vette and it will help you allot. What the vette cannot repell are the 3 gunboats (1 at a time) that take up position just in front of the vette but just outside fireing range and it will be stopped. Ignore the gun boat's escorts and strip the weapons off the GB before the vette gets into the range of the GB. Once the GB is stripped ignore it and incap those fighters, you do not have time to kill them.



Ducimus
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:45 am
#16


JanuHull wrote:


Ducimus wrote:

Once you practice enough, and learn all the proper responses to various threats the game throws at you. The JTL PvE game becomes trivial.


The minute that term applies to anything in an MMORPG, that game is dead. Kessel and Deep Space should be anything but trivial.
Honestly, I'd like to see some of the droid commands players use applied to NPCs. I'd love to see the look on some "pilot's" face when the Aggressor he's been beating on suddenly pulls a Cap to Shield Shunt...





Wanna know the best part?
Ive gone up to DS in a 40K mass Tie/ln with MKII armor plating, no shield, L6 engine, L7 cannon, MKII booster. Standard PvP overloads. RO4, EO4, etc etc.

That was fun. I was crawling right up the Teir 5 A wings tailpipe. Got smoked in PvP, but hey, i can brag and say i had the cahonies to go to DS without a shield

It was a rush, any hit PvP or PvE and id be at the starport, and it wasnt the PvE enviorment that did me in, although i was smart enough to inteninonaly avoid the B wing swarms. Id run out of chaff way too fast. <- prime example of knowing your limits and thinking.. that last statement right there.

Message Edited by Ducimus on 07-07-2005 11:46 AM



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Alarien
Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:46 am
#17

I think Pace was talking about the missions you get after you finish the Vette mission. If I remember after I finished the Kashyyk vette, I spoke to the YT-1300 Veteran and he gave me some rather nutso mission that I was totally unprepared for. I don't really remember at this point though as dropping Ace to go Vortex and getting glowy and having Ackbar "remove my obligations" somehow (somewhere in there) reset my space station missions for Rori Station and Kashyyk. Now I have to start over with the Kash station despite having my Advanced X-Wing already.



Alarien Evenstar
-Rogue Paladin-
Starsider
AzzixxSWG
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:34 pm
#18






PaceNebulon wrote:

They are duty missions that the Kash station give after you complete the advanced x-wing/RG Tie/Vaksai vette mission. I haven't tried but heard they couldn't be solo'ed. I will try tonight though.


EDIT: These are not the missions from the YT-1300.

Message Edited by PaceNebulon on 07-07-2005 02:26 PM





These are tier 4 duties. Very soloable. Good loot drop rates. Payout is average. No turreted ships in this one.


I have a good idea why some capeable players are not able to solo well if at all.


Player: How do the devs expect a tier 2 to be able to take on missions that have tier 3 ships in them?


Azzixx: Are you useing a Droid/ Flight computer with the 4 overloads and cap to shield shunt?


Player: what is a flight computer? What are overloads....


So many people are trying to fly missing 1/3 of there ship.


1/3 is the pilot and his piloting skills


1/3 is the ships components.


1/3 is the droid/FC and the programs used



Message Edited by AzzixxSWG on 07-07-2005 04:36 PM

JanuHull
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:51 pm
#19






AzzixxSWG wrote:






PaceNebulon wrote:

They are duty missions that the Kash station give after you complete the advanced x-wing/RG Tie/Vaksai vette mission. I haven't tried but heard they couldn't be solo'ed. I will try tonight though.


EDIT: These are not the missions from the YT-1300.

Message Edited by PaceNebulon on 07-07-2005 02:26 PM





These are tier 4 duties. Very soloable. Good loot drop rates. Payout is average. No turreted ships in this one.


I have a good idea why some capeable players are not able to solo well if at all.


Player: How do the devs expect a tier 2 to be able to take on missions that have tier 3 ships in them?


Azzixx: Are you useing a Droid/ Flight computer with the 4 overloads and cap to shield shunt?


Player: what is a flight computer? What are overloads....


So many people are trying to fly missing 1/3 of there ship.


1/3 is the pilot and his piloting skills


1/3 is the ships components.


1/3 is the droid/FC and the programs used




Message Edited by AzzixxSWG on 07-07-2005 04:36 PM




That's part of what made my run up to master so painful. Droid Programs were kinda in the "you get'em when you earn'em" category.



Janu Hull
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PaceNebulon
Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:56 pm
#20

me too... I didn't start using them till 4443, that is when I joined a guild and learned of the wonders of programs. Now I never leave the station without them.



Pace Nebulon+Stealth+
...has mastered the Pilot profession
TIE Interceptor Guide to PvP
"Your generic TIE grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthirsty. When you see a squad of those maniacs flying your way, you'd better hope your hyperdrive is operational." - Kyle Katarn

Alarien
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:00 pm
#21


My first time through I didn't use anything but Rebel (read as: crappy) droid programs until Tier 4. Once I discovered overloads and CTSS (which I had been looking for but didn't realize I could use) it was all downhill from there.


The thing about this post that kills me is that people completely missed my point. They took it as "I can do it, so I'm better than you."


Of course that wasn't the point. There is no separation in my post about l33t skillz or some other silliness. Its not about who is the best and pilots are better than average players. Read it again if you saw that.


Treena summed up my point really well, whether she realizes it or not, when she said that she thinks there is very little in JTL she can't solo even if she isn't the best pilot.


Its attitude, and its not "I am the best." Yes, ego is a large part of player pilots, but not all of them.


Its about the simple thought that many pilots feel going into a fight, whether its this time or next or the time after that, or attempt #50:


"I will not be beaten."


If you think that way, you WILL eventually get it. There's nothing wrong with having friends help you or asking for help. There's a problem when you feel that you can't do it.




Alarien Evenstar
-Rogue Paladin-
Starsider
Neaadan
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:11 pm
#22

I absolutely LOVE the space sims starting with X-Wing. Some things I miss?


Oh how I miss shooting down torps and missiles as they spew from bombers trying to take down a modified frigate.

Presetting targets.

Tie Defender.. I'm a rebel but MAN that ship was pimp. I used to laugh when someone fired torps at me.

Capital ships. There should be more and they should be mean.

Fleet battles.

Space Collision.
Satch_of_GL
Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:14 pm
#23

Dang, this thread needs theme music! Not that I disagree, but...



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refleks
Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:31 pm
#24


Hehe nice post. Just did the Vaksai vet quest last night, failed 6 or 7 times before I got it, but when I finally got it I was like "oooh that's how it's done".




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PaceNebulon
Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:40 pm
#25








AzzixxSWG wrote:



These are tier 4 duties. Very soloable. Good loot drop rates. Payout is average. No turreted ships in this one.




Um... not quite accurate..... they seem like Tier 4 duty missions but there is at least 1 of the tier 5 gunboats that fly like a light fighter and hit like a vette only 1000x more accurate. It is possible to solo but it cought me without missles and it took me too long to kill it. Now that I know it is coming I am going back for payback.




Pace Nebulon+Stealth+
...has mastered the Pilot profession
TIE Interceptor Guide to PvP
"Your generic TIE grunt is just plain suicidal. And the TIE Defender jockey is bloodthirsty. But the TIE Interceptor pilot, he's suicidal and bloodthirsty. When you see a squad of those maniacs flying your way, you'd better hope your hyperdrive is operational." - Kyle Katarn

Washell
Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:00 pm
#26






Alarien wrote:


2) "I did it in a newbie ship with a broken blaster, no shields, and half my engine blown off (and chances are, they really did),"




Been there, done that. Ooohhh... the satisfaction that grants...


Love your post, totally getting it. I've got 15 years of space sim experience, they're my favorite genre together with flight sims so I've got years of experience in vital areas like situational awareness, leading aim. Had a little trouble at first with JTL since the higher missions were designed for groups, but after a few confirmations on the forum they could be soloed I went to the done/not yet done group.


I do see us ace pilots setting double standards. In one thread we post the advice "get help", though usually followed by some tips on ship setup, droid programs and tactics. In the next thread we proudlytell we soloed the Vette/ISD/tough mission/etc.

It is worthto stick with it and practice. It's a real rush to fly full speed into the combined blind spot of a triple gunboat wing in deep space, cut the throttle at the right time and blow all 3 of them without targeting subcomponents and never getting hit.
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