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Thread: 190k is a LOT of mass (and other observations)

AzidarNath
Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:58 am
#14

The Rhix is my favorite PvE ship. I outfit it with three guns and an agile engine (speed is irrelevent in the tank, but good maneuverability is a must). The firepower this thing delivers is pretty sweet.


It's also my favorite mining ship. One blaster, one mining laser, one tractor beam and a macro to run it all. I can fill my large hold in 10 minutes flat and any pirates that pop up get turned into slag in no time.


It's also the best freelancer ship for taking out gunships, in my opinion. Especially in Kessel or Deep Space. Just line up below and behind the gunship, keep a distance of 440m and start all three blasters chewing up the gunboat like wet toilet paper.


I just started experimenting with this ship and a fast engine in Deep Space too, for head on attacks, but haven't had much action yet so I'll let you know how it turns out.







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Catman-Does
Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:32 am
#15

My Rihkxyrk still has ~90k mass free But that's only because its still got some player built bits in there. Think I'll replace some of the LVL-7 guns with LVL-10s later (that'll bump up the mass ) but it's already an extremely devistating weapon in PvE.

Yeah for mining I used the Krayt - which, tbh I'm not a big fan of. The Rihkxyrk is by far one of the coolest ships - no matter which style you go for (I got style 2).





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pgm2b2
Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:02 am
#16

I just love the Krayt and still flying my first chassis I built for myself after Mastering.


I usually fly with 3 Lvl8 guns, Mk4 Proton launcher 119 speed motor, GB, Vette bashing couldn't be easier


Must get a buff and try make a Higher Mass Krayt Chassis





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FalinMor
Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:36 am
#17






Rogue135 wrote:





FilanVader wrote:





megacrafter wrote:
210k mass is much nicer ( the krayt) 3 guns and a turrent its hell cool







whats a Turrent? =)





http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=turrent





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SheenaBrelya
Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:15 am
#18


Narrganocca wrote:
... 3 lvl 8s in a Rhyk are basically like 3 lvl 10s in a Krayt, since with the krayt's fire spread it is tough to hit anything but gunboats with all 3 weapons, whereas the Rhyk hits with all 3 very nicely

It was determined in this thread that the vast majority of weapons cause damage as if they were fired from the center line of the ship (this includes all of the Pilot controlled weapons of the Krayt and Rihk). Therefore it makes no difference how far out on the wings the weapons are mounted on the Krayt vs the Rihk, as all three damage vectors on both ships come from the center point between the two graphical mounts. If that wasn't a good enough explanation, read the thread.

In essence, the Krayt is better than the Rihk in every way except hitbox, which has so far been an unmeasurably quantifier. If you prefer the Rihk, more power to you, but it has no PvE benefit at all and negliable PvP benefit over the Krayt.

This is pretty much why there was some confused and angry players when the Krayt came out - it was an unbalanced ship (compared to original ships, it still is). The same effect, but to a larger degree, has happened over the unbalanced RotW ships. Wouldn't it be frikken amazing if the YT-2400 is so much better than the other POBs that the YT-1300, Nova, and Deci become obsolete when compared?

Shona

Message Edited by SheenaBrelya on 10-06-2005 01:18 PM

LeaphChausew
Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:38 am
#19






SheenaBrelya wrote:




Narrganocca wrote:
... 3 lvl 8s in a Rhyk are basically like 3 lvl 10s in a Krayt, since with the krayt's fire spread it is tough to hit anything but gunboats with all 3 weapons, whereas the Rhyk hits with all 3 very nicely



It was determined in this thread that the vast majority of weapons cause damage as if they were fired from the center line of the ship (this includes all of the Pilot controlled weapons of the Krayt and Rihk). Therefore it makes no difference how far out on the wings the weapons are mounted on the Krayt vs the Rihk, as all three damage vectors on both ships come from the center point between the two graphical mounts. If that wasn't a good enough explanation, read the thread.

In essence, the Krayt is better than the Rihk in every way except hitbox, which has so far been an unmeasurably quantifier. If you prefer the Rihk, more power to you, but it has no PvE benefit at all and negliable PvP benefit over the Krayt.

This is pretty much why there was some confused and angry players when the Krayt came out - it was an unbalanced ship (compared to original ships, it still is). The same effect, but to a larger degree, has happened over the unbalanced RotW ships. Wouldn't it be frikken amazing if the YT-2400 is so much better than the other POBs that the YT-1300, Nova, and Deci become obsolete when compared?

Shona

Message Edited by SheenaBrelya on 10-06-2005 01:18 PM





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R9D14
Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:02 am
#20






sandrew wrote:

Say what you want about the Bel-22, I love mine, just as I loved my Dunie before it. (besides, at 36k on a vendor it's my new disposable hero) Packed with my newly RE'd level 6 engine, a big honkin' centerline gun (3k+ dmg) and a decent 2nd gun (2.2k) it's a nice little ship to crank out my Tier 4 pilot missions.


(My Vaksai is in storage both awaiting good RE'd parts and until I get master so I can enter deep space for repairs.)


Maneuverability is fun but there's something to be said about boosting straight at a group of 4-6 tier 4/5 ships in a tank and blasting 'em all to smithereens. Before I advanced past it in pilot and turned it into a mining ship, my Kimogila was my tank of choice. God, I love that thing. Painted black it looks menacing. I even named it the Ithorian Avenger.


So, anyway, after completing my mission for my 3rd tier 4 piloting box I took a look at the reward. Nice level 8 shield but 40k+ mass? Ummm...what can I possibly use that in? It'd be a stretch in the Kimo and possibly even the Vaksai but a Rihxyrkwould have plenty of room. Turns out yeah, it did. Loaded up with some of the best parts in my inventory (which, admittedly, isn't that large yet) I only got 'er up to 152k. So after some shopping in went a bigger reactor (16k), better engines and I crafted a better capacitor and some heavier armor (tier 3 shipwright...go me LOL). STILL only around 187k and I know once I get some more RE'd parts in there I'll have even more room. I feel like a homeless man moving into an empty mansion.


I knew what to expect handling-wise after flying my Kimo. Rolls are NOT high-mass ships' strong point as you have to start to counter-correct before the roll is completed and even then it's a tad sloppy. However, these things RULE at sliding. You want to fly circles and loops around me while flying your light fighter? Fine. I'll just set my throttle at 45% and use yaw and a little pitch to slide and keep my nose on you practically the entire time and blast you to bits. You want to joust? Oh, baby - big mistake. I've got the shields to take your potshots and 3 BFGs ready and willing to plow one through your snotlocker before you can get past me. If you actually DO get past me I can take 5 or more shots from your buddies on my tail while I finish you off before having to CtSS, turn and engage again. With my big honkin' capacitor andCO3 I'm back to full capacitor energy before I even complete my turn. You want to run? Ha! I've got a hefty booster and consussion II launcher (can craft better now but haven't taken the time).


I know I'd get slaughtered in PvP in this thing but as I can't even enter deep space atm I don't care. That's what my Vaksai will be for.


I am wondering, though, if a crafted engine with all experimentation points put into yaw (maybe a couple onto pitch) would be even more benificial for a heavy ship like this one for sliding? For PvE I'm thinking it could make for an interesting experiment. Once I get tier 4 SW under my belt I might just try it.


I still fly my Bel-22 when I feel the need to turn 'n burn but more often than not lately, I feel like flying my aerial battlewagon. I can take it, I don't have to turn or give ground. You SHALL NOT pass.


My name is Scott, and I love my tank.








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