Pilot Archive
Thread: If Jedi want to use FP in space.. then I want to be able to kill them as a Mark in space.
Also i cant keep a lookout for you as unless we are both overt up there you wont look like a threat untill after you have attacked me and the TEF kicks in. Which throws out the entire concept of a fair fight which you talk about so much, one thing i do know about PvP up there is planning the attack is 75% of the battle, so if the first thing i know about it is a MK II spacebome hitting me, FIrst of all who in the heck would use a MKIISB on you? they are slow, andcouldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Soagain you're showing your skill as a fighter pilot. But continue like you do. Keep talking. Any PVP pilot here should laugh at that one.
well i guess thats fair from your perspective right? afterall i should use chaff every time a missle is fierd at me and land to restock it every time it runs out while im running duty missions. Again.. your assume to much. My combat ship has no missiles what so ever. So keep putting me or who ever into the same group. I will continue to place you then into the same group of Jedi that whine about not being uber or want a easy ride.
Ofcource this would be compleatly different if jedi skills worked up there, Well if you where a romulian jedi I guess you could have cloak also. master defender would become a requirement for pilots and would compleatly screw the entire space game, How is it screwing theentire space game that aMBH hunts you out there also? Just keep your wits aboutyou and watch your six...you don't need master defender unless that is your crutch on the ground war. Perhaps you would should like to spend some time in space and learnhow to fight.I know jedi thatare some of the best pilots in teh galaxy on our server. So your point is .. well keep reading. You explain it your self.
i dont think anyone can aruge with that...Please readabove. I can.well actually i guess you are since this is a pre req to your idea isnt it... but what the hell, i used the word gank and i have a jedi so obviously im not out for keeping the game fun or being against an idea that would unbalance the game, imjust being the steryotypewhiney jedi that i aparently am and you can just dismiss all of this as jedi whineing and point out how i obviously cant pvp atall and am against this idea for my own benifit, right? errrr ok.
Message Edited by TheRoninCorp on 07-28-2005 02:27 AM
Kryxal wrote:
If mechanicswould bethe same for BH vs. Jedi in space as on the ground, it's NOT the same chance of winning. Oh, and scanning for hostile players wouldn't pick you up either, you don't read as hostile until after you fire (and probably hit, given space mechanics). Now, is PvP with the BH guaranteed first hit and the Jedi not spotting the BH as a targeta fair fight in space? I don't think so...
TheRoninCorp wrote:
Ummm... How is tracking you down, you having a equal opertunity to fight back .. unless your just not paying attention.. GANKING YOU? You my friend are the classic whining jedi then.. you want a free ride. You wan't to just have your jedi quick and easy and never have to worry about a thing. MBH my friend since the BEGINNING has been about hunting JEDI. Not sure why you don't understnad that. If you bring your jedi out.. then expect to be hunted by MBH... wht they where set up to do.. don't like the Jedi vs BH thing? then don't bring him out. But to cry GANK like every other jedi in the game if they loose.. well... You call my atypical.. welll right back at you. If my hunting you.. finding you .. and having the same chance at winning as you do.. is ganking then.. don't know wht to say to you. I guess 1v1 is space is a little too rough of PVP for you. Or by reading your post once again I can see you're not a very confident pilot what so ever. But thats not our problem. Your the Jedi, I am the MBH.
Joint_Maker wrote:
How about no friggin FP in space? C'mon... there was not enough discussion on the earlier thread?
/shake
TheRoninCorp wrote:
Some one already quipped that they felt they Earned the right to use thier powers in space. Fine by me. Then I have earned the right to hunt them down in space also.
I though you refered to Force Powers....I know about Faction Points i'm in DS everytime I can
TheRoninCorp wrote:
Current PVP system in space is you either have to declare .. 30 second timer or DS. Now.. I have NO problem what so ever with the target...I would prefer this.. was able to cycle through and I would come up as a target. Your thinking ground war. Space is a tat different on how its set up.. but I understand. I again have NO problem with my being a red dot on the radar once I warp into a system. So.. now that we got that out of the way. I choose mission. Apon launch I am registered as a hostile to my target. I hunt target. Same thing as going overt in space and looking for other overts. I hyper in. See target and attack. Target blissfully FP farming or what not? Splash one. Target keeping his wits about him? Good ol' fashion dog fight. No ganking, no exploits no what ever.
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Also i cant keep a lookout for you as unless we are both overt up there you wont look like a threat untill after you have attacked me and the TEF kicks in. Which throws out the entire concept of a fair fight which you talk about so much, one thing i do know about PvP up there is planning the attack is 75% of the battle, so if the first thing i know about it is a MK II spacebome hitting me, FIrst of all who in the heck would use a MKIISB on you? they are slow, andcouldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Soagain you're showing your skill as a fighter pilot. But continue like you do. Keep talking. Any PVP pilot here should laugh at that one.Like i said above, im no great space PvPer, never gone into PvP with a launcher on my ship, so i wouldent know, feel free to laugh away
well i guess thats fair from your perspective right? afterall i should use chaff every time a missle is fierd at me and land to restock it every time it runs out while im running duty missions. Again.. your assume to much. My combat ship has no missiles what so ever. So keep putting me or who ever into the same group. I will continue to place you then into the same group of Jedi that whine about not being uber or want a easy ride. Now that is fair enough, tbh the reason i dont PvP in space much is because in the past when i have tried its nothing but a missle war which put me of the whole idea a lot.
Ofcource this would be compleatly different if jedi skills worked up there, Well if you where a romulian jedi I guess you could have cloak also.well this is exactly the type of thing we would see if powers were alowed in spacemaster defender would become a requirement for pilots and would compleatly screw the entire space game, How is it screwing theentire space game that aMBH hunts you out there also? Just keep your wits aboutyou and watch your six...you don't need master defender unless that is your crutch on the ground war. Perhaps you would should like to spend some time in space and learnhow to fight.I know jedi thatare some of the best pilots in teh galaxy on our server. So your point is .. well keep reading. You explain it your self.
id say a master defender+some enhancer+some powerspilot haveing an extra 50% armour, 1500 point heal to shields, aura around the ship makeing you miss half the time and reduceing your damage, force deflecting shots from shields with valour and 30 sec invulnrability while they heal shields up, not to mention force speed makeing the guns re fire faster and the ship move faster than anything else out there, and ofcource cloaking the ship as you mentiond yourself, just to name a few common jedi skills, well you dont think that would unbalance the game atall?
now as you said yourself, jedi are a bunch of whiners, im not going to debate that fact, reason i stoped posting in there forums was i was constantly under attack because any ideas for balance in there are seen as a jedi nerf, most jedi as we all know, especially on the boards want to be unstopable and not have any chance to die, now you want to bring that attitude into space, you know if it happens posts like that jedi power one going now will take over this board like they did the jedi forum, and your supporting the idea, if you think all this crap is really worth being able to hunt jedi in space, then fine, obviously since im no PvPer you wont take note of anything im saying anyway.
i dont think anyone can aruge with that...Please readabove. I can again read above.well actually i guess you are since this is a pre req to your idea isnt it... but what the hell, i used the word gank and i have a jedi so obviously im not out for keeping the game fun or being against an idea that would unbalance the game, imjust being the steryotypewhiney jedi that i aparently am and you can just dismiss all of this as jedi whineing and point out how i obviously cant pvp atall and am against this idea for my own benifit, right? errrr ok.im not sure what you dont get there, you came out with an unbalanced idea, and instead of giveing reasons as to why itis valid you point out im a whiny jedi who cant PvPand leave it at that.
on a seperate note, im not compleatly against BH missions in space, infact id love to see this implamented for my smuggler, but the jedi v BH thing just has to many down sides to be allowed in space, especially with jedi being given there powers up there as a pre req, if you want this so bad, come up with a new system, i know as a smuggler id think it was a great idea if i screwed up delivering spice for jabba to many times that i had a bounty placed on me that would reach into space, atleast that idea has some story behind it, and dosent effect anyones abilitys in space which would unbalance the game.