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Thread: Petition: YT for all factions
psikobunny
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:00 pm
#14
Rebels used it as a command craft because a Rebel General decided he wanted it 
When players can become generals, then maybe I won't mind if they get to pick the ship they like.
When players can become generals, then maybe I won't mind if they get to pick the ship they like.
Sar-larid
Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:18 pm
#15
"The rebels did use the Falcon as the "command fighter" in RotJ."
And a freelance pilot was flying it.
DarkBShadow
Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:58 pm
#16
hah aya lando if you remeber like solo was a freelance pilot. it was his ship before it was Han. Han won it from Lando. And Han lent the ship to Lando, in ROTJ, because it was most likly the only ship that could do the job in the fleet cuz it is the fastest ship.
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ImpDoc_001
Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:22 am
#17
I think rebel and freelancer pilots should be able to cross-certify. Freelancers can explain it as securing unsecured equipment, and rebels could explain it as privately owned ships. As stated, there is a precedent for using privately owned ships, the Falcon. I know Imperial pilots would scream bloody murder for being left out, but hey, you gotta follow regulations. I would also like to see the addition of other ships, like Xisor's (sp?) and the YT-2400 and TIE Defender. All are canon, they have been used in Lucas sanctioned books and games. Just my 2 creds.
BelarrnSorak
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:47 am
#18
if were going by movies and who can fly what, then how could Han have flowen the Imperal shuttle?
i would not have any problem with anyone flying any ship, but with the restrictions like on weapons where if you don't have a cert then its pretty useless. have it speed caped at say 450mps and have damage at like 200 - 500, that way anyone could get one and fly it, but they would not beable to use it for any thing more then a sunday drivein ship.
this would allow anyone to fly in any ship, have some defence but not be able to fly into combat.
what dose everytone think of an idea like that?
i would not have any problem with anyone flying any ship, but with the restrictions like on weapons where if you don't have a cert then its pretty useless. have it speed caped at say 450mps and have damage at like 200 - 500, that way anyone could get one and fly it, but they would not beable to use it for any thing more then a sunday drivein ship.
this would allow anyone to fly in any ship, have some defence but not be able to fly into combat.
what dose everytone think of an idea like that?
Vrond
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:06 am
#19
I can't agree. Solo was a free lance pilot who joined the rebel ground forces. Your asking to take something that is unquie to the free lance pilots away and not give them something back. The Novarider is fine for rebels It looks like a warship.
ImpDoc_001
Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:05 pm
#20
Han was also in his younger days an Imperial Pilot. It's in the book about his turning smuggler and introduces his fetish for wookiees. It's authorized literature by Lucas, so it's canon. That's how he could pilot the Imperial shuttle, though if he had to drop his Imperial pilot skills to take up freelancer...
Lusankya
Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:23 pm
#21
No, no, no
The Y1300 is a smugglers ship (freelance)if properly outfitted. Rebels and Imperials already have a MP ship and don't need another. I've completed all the aces and went SA for this reason. I piloted all the MP ships and there is no difference between them. So if you want the YT-1300 simply go Freelance in space.n Stay whatever you want on the ground.
And I agree that the firespray should still be Freelance only!
And for the Han Solo reference he did leave the Rebel alliance when it went to The New Republic.
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FightmasterJorak
Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:01 pm
#22
Hmmm, I'm quite suprised at how closed minded people are being here, let me clear a few things up:
I'm no "Solo Wannabe" I was just using him as an example.
I LOVE flying for the Rebels, I really do, the X Wing, the A Wing, even the B Wing. I love flying with my teamates in formation X Wings. Nothing like it.
I should NOT have to be a merc(And that's all freelance are.) if I want to fly a YT.
If we're gonna get down to the real truth here, then fine, but you won't like it: YT's should not be in game, they were bloody rare at this point. The Empire did NOT lot its fighters fly anything but Imperial Navy ships. The Firespray was even rarer than the YT, one of the reasons Fett was so feared, when people saw the Firespray(Slave) they knew the Fett was gonna get them.
I honestly think its stupid the way it is, Mercs in SW flew ANYTHING they wanted, X Wings, even stolen TIE fighters, it really didn't matter. Rebels also used non Alliance ships on occasion. The only problem if they added this to the game, well obviously we would have every Imperial flying in merc ships, or every merc flying in TIE's.
Quite simply, your generally right, lets keep it "simple"TIE's for the Empire, Wings for the Rebels, and Hutt/Black Sun for the mercs. But seriously, the Rebel and Imperial multi ships are not "official" ships of those factions like the X Wing or a TIE Fighter for EXAMPLE.
I seruously think it makes sense to let Rebels fly the merc ships, and vice versa. Now of COURSE this would be "unfair" to the Imperials, so perhaps they could be given some access to merc ships, or even better, same TIE designs, but with more mass, as that's the thing that the Imps suffer on.(Oh and for the record, I've flown for all 3 so I'm damn qualified to say so.)
Bacon00
Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:04 pm
#23
Dude, this argument is as old as the first press release announcing JTL.
Give it up. It makes no sense. YT's are in the game, and people want YT's to be in the game. YOU want to fly a YT, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this. YT's are for Privateers. The devs then made 2 more YT-like ships to give to the other factions, both of which I think are actually "cooler" than the YT itself.
Basically, what you're saying, is that you want yourself to be the only person to own a YT. At least, this is what I'm hearing when I read your posts. You want to have a YT, but they shouldn't be in the game - except for you to fly (as a rebel).
As a rebel, you have a Nova. That's pretty sweet... Nova's are actually nicer inside than the YT's.... I'm actually somewhat disappointed in my YT because it's so tiny inside and that there are no windows. The Decimator is freaking awesome, and I've seriously considered going imp pilot just so I could have one. And with a Nova, you don't feel like a Han Solo wannabe - you can at least be a bit original.
If you want a YT, go Privateer and fly as a rebel. That's whatI do. I go up in my Privateer ships and declare overt as a Rebel. BAM, I'm a rebel freelance pilot. I get FP and everything in space. It's no different than my rebel-ship-flying buddies.
I chose to be a Privateer, even though I'm a staunch rebel on the ground, because I wanted the YT and wanted to keep my options open.
This idea is NEVER going to go through, because it would seriously piss off every single Privateer in the game. YT's would be everywhere, as well, further eliminating your idea that "YT's shouldn't even be in the game." What MP ship would Privateers get, then, to replace the YT if all factions had access to it? You can't just take a ship away from them because you want to be Han Solo, and not give them anything to replace it with.
Please, stop posting about this - people are going to continue to flame you and you're just going to embarass yourself further.
RyadhiMakkar
Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:16 pm
#24
Bacon00 wrote:
Dude, this argument is as old as the first press release announcing JTL.
Give it up. It makes no sense. YT's are in the game, and people want YT's to be in the game. YOU want to fly a YT, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this. YT's are for Privateers. The devs then made 2 more YT-like ships to give to the other factions, both of which I think are actually "cooler" than the YT itself.
Basically, what you're saying, is that you want yourself to be the only person to own a YT. At least, this is what I'm hearing when I read your posts. You want to have a YT, but they shouldn't be in the game - except for you to fly (as a rebel).
As a rebel, you have a Nova. That's pretty sweet... Nova's are actually nicer inside than the YT's.... I'm actually somewhat disappointed in my YT because it's so tiny inside and that there are no windows. The Decimator is freaking awesome, and I've seriously considered going imp pilot just so I could have one. And with a Nova, you don't feel like a Han Solo wannabe - you can at least be a bit original.
If you want a YT, go Privateer and fly as a rebel. That's whatI do. I go up in my Privateer ships and declare overt as a Rebel. BAM, I'm a rebel freelance pilot. I get FP and everything in space. It's no different than my rebel-ship-flying buddies.
I chose to be a Privateer, even though I'm a staunch rebel on the ground, because I wanted the YT and wanted to keep my options open.
This idea is NEVER going to go through, because it would seriously piss off every single Privateer in the game. YT's would be everywhere, as well, further eliminating your idea that "YT's shouldn't even be in the game." What MP ship would Privateers get, then, to replace the YT if all factions had access to it? You can't just take a ship away from them because you want to be Han Solo, and not give them anything to replace it with.
Please, stop posting about this - people are going to continue to flame you and you're just going to embarass yourself further.
What he said.
Vegitaa
Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:00 pm
#25
FightmasterJorak wrote:
QFE => If you don't agree with anything in this post, that's fine, but if you want to argue, please do it with common sense and a respectful attitude, I'd like this post to go somewhere.
FightmasterJorak wrote:
Hmmm, I'm quite suprised at how closed minded people are being here, let me clear a few things up:
I'm no "Solo Wannabe" I was just using him as an example.
I LOVE flying for the Rebels, I really do, the X Wing, the A Wing, even the B Wing. I love flying with my teamates in formation X Wings. Nothing like it.
I should NOT have to be a merc(And that's all freelance are.) if I want to fly a YT.
If we're gonna get down to the real truth here, then fine, but you won't like it: YT's should not be in game, they were bloody rare at this point. The Empire did NOT lot its fighters fly anything but Imperial Navy ships. The Firespray was even rarer than the YT, one of the reasons Fett was so feared, when people saw the Firespray(Slave) they knew the Fett was gonna get them.
I honestly think its stupid the way it is, Mercs in SW flew ANYTHING they wanted, X Wings, even stolen TIE fighters, it really didn't matter. Rebels also used non Alliance ships on occasion. The only problem if they added this to the game, well obviously we would have every Imperial flying in merc ships, or every merc flying in TIE's.
Quite simply, your generally right, lets keep it "simple"TIE's for the Empire, Wings for the Rebels, and Hutt/Black Sun for the mercs. But seriously, the Rebel and Imperial multi ships are not "official" ships of those factions like the X Wing or a TIE Fighter for EXAMPLE.
I seruously think it makes sense to let Rebels fly the merc ships, and vice versa. Now of COURSE this would be "unfair" to the Imperials, so perhaps they could be given some access to merc ships, or even better, same TIE designs, but with more mass, as that's the thing that the Imps suffer on.(Oh and for the record, I've flown for all 3 so I'm damn qualified to say so.)
So, no one else should disagree with you (quite diplomatically I might add) but you can fling poo at anyone you want... nice
Vegitaa
Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:06 pm
#26
Oh yeah.. and by the way, I don't know what game you're playing but in this one Star Wars Canon is right out the window. There's Jedi, Firesprays, and coming soon to a space sector near you the Jedi Starfighter. So lets be realistic as far as those excuses are concerned. Point is this. The YT1300 is no better or worse than any other POB ship (I should know I've mastered both Imperial and Nuetral... sure YT has 2 missle ports instead of 3.. big deal)
The Black Sun/Hutt fighters NEVER existed in any game/canon/movie until JTL. The rules of canon are completely pointless in this game. So now we look towards balance and "fun" factor.
Balance = Each Faction gets it's own unique POB ship.
Fun = Give the Nuetrals something "Iconic" and "Canon" oriented to make it worth mastering the prof. Hence, nuetrals get the YT1300.
Han Solo wanna-be or not is irrelevant, Boba Fett wanna-be or not... irrelevant, it's an issue of who gets what and why. This was argued into the grave during JTL beta. Don't like it... go Nuetral.
(Tried to be civil man... then you had to pull the "closed minded people" card. Maybe it's you that is closed minded to think that only your point is valid. I admit freely my ideas may not be popular nor do I think my ideas should be pushed into production... they're just ideas.)