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Thread: Ways to make the Y-8 a more capable mining vessel

Bronski113
Fri May 06, 2005 5:38 pm
#1

I thought I would start up a thread that we all could post our ideas and suggestions to make the Y-8 better.


I'll try to make a master list of all ideas (if RL permits me to keep it up).


I have read some of these ideas elsewhere so i can't take credit for thinking all of them up.


Here are the ideas:


- Allow the Y-8 to equip a more powerful tractor beam that allows the ship to tractor in the large chunks that first blast off the asteroids. These large chunks would be stored inside the ship for processing (i'd say a total of 5 large chunks can be stored at any one time).

- Processing the larger chunks: a station inside the ship would be used to process the larger chunks into the resources that we harvest now. This could be made into a mini game of sorts or an interface that requires player interaction.

-More turrets for better coverage around the ship or turret repositioning.

-A mining laser and tractor beam in a single turret.


Other ideas that go beyond the Y-8:

- A mining profession. Would take no skillpoints like the pilot professions. The higher the mining skills the more resources you can get from the asteroids.


This ship and gameplay has great potential but I feel, as I am sure others do, it needs a lot of work still. Let's help make it better.



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Zeon_Zaku
Fri May 06, 2005 5:48 pm
#2

Sounds like some good ideas to me.



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TheDarkmoons
Fri May 06, 2005 5:59 pm
#3

New Schematic: Space Mining Monkeys, craftable by Bio engineers and Shipwrights. (Bio Engineers make the monkeys, Shipwrights make the space equipment).

You launch the mining monkeys at an asteroid, and if successful they begin mining it. If unsuccessful, the asteroid is left with a monkey-shaped red pattern on the side.

New profession: Monkey mining. The Effectiveness tree adds to the Monkey Mining Effectiveness, which determines if your monkeys successfully land on the asteroid. Mining tree adds to the rate of mining by the monkeys. Defences adds shields to your monkeys, so they can survive pirate attacks. Offense gives your Space Mining Monkeys small laser cannons and explosives, which they can use to repel attacking pirates and to help destroy asteroids.

New Species: Space Monkey. 'Nuff said.




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AkymaCali
Fri May 06, 2005 6:01 pm
#4


i agree with all that. i love the new ship and hope they make some changes on it to make it mine better.


i think the easyest fix would be to be able to tractor in the first large chunks into the ship.


i would also like to see a button for tarteting the closest chunk its hard to find all the pieces when they fly in diffrent directions (maybe there is one could someone tell me plz)


the mulit-player ships seems to be the best for mining if you want to have a crew. might even be better if they made a foward gun on the MP ship like they did for the y-8. everyone has been wanting a forward gun on the MP ships since they came out


but for now the b-wing with 4 crafted Lvl 3 Mining lazers and crafted 1550 large cargo hold is working the best for me




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Bronski113
Fri May 06, 2005 6:29 pm
#5

I think the main thing with the Y-8 is that you shouldn't have to move around much. However, you would need a crew to be the most effective.





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PhatCohiba
Fri May 06, 2005 6:40 pm
#6






AkymaCali wrote:


but for now the b-wing with 4 crafted Lvl 3 Mining lazers and crafted 1550 large cargo hold is working the best for me








This is a sick combo. We've been trying it out and it just spam's the space with asteroids.

My point. You should be able to do serious space mining solo. I don't see me getting a bunch of friends together for some space mining.

So to that end the y-8's front gun should be firable from the turret seat. This would allow you to "Pound" the asteroid to get more med.. Then the turret could make them smalls.

I'd love to have droid controllable tractor beams then pull in the itty bitty chunks.

or mount the tractor beam on the same turret so they can both be done together.


BTW, why isn't the tractorbeam a cone shape rather then a point shape. If it was cone shaped it could grab across a bigger area.
Vicotnik
Fri May 06, 2005 7:23 pm
#7






PhatCohiba wrote:

or mount the tractor beam on the same turret so they can both be done together.






That's actually a very good idea. Implement the possibility to mount both a mining laser and a tractor beam on each turret, and the Y-8 would be more useful.


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... But for now, I'd be happy if I could just launch the damn ship.





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Bronski113
Fri May 06, 2005 7:27 pm
#8

I'm thinking 2 people in the Y-8 for it to be pretty good. But if you have more you should be able to harvest more.



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pgm2b2
Fri May 06, 2005 8:59 pm
#9

Best thing I can sugest is delete the turkey



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GileHarleen
Fri May 06, 2005 9:04 pm
#10

Working and moving machinery when asteroids are being harvested? I'm asking way too much with that but it would be soooo cool.



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InfluenzaSWTA
Fri May 06, 2005 9:18 pm
#11

We had a nice conversation with Darth Platypus in the beta forum about how to buff up the Y-8. He conceded that it isn't as efficient as it should be, but said that scheduling constraints would prevent him from addressing it before launch .

But regardless, you definitely have some good thoughts here. I'm especially supportive of adding more turrets... there's just no way the Y-8 will become more effecient than individual fighters unless it can multi-task the mining operation. Right now, the pilot has to shoot asteroids, blow apart chunks, then chase down small chunks while the turrets tractor them in, which is the exact same process as a fighter. Adding more turrets would let the pilot focus on spawning large chunks while his numerous gunners blew apart the existing ones, and tractors pulled them in. This would create a constant flurry of activity and is the only way the Y-8 will really become more efficient. It needs to be able to multi-task the operation!



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Myxylplyk
Fri May 06, 2005 9:36 pm
#12

I very much HATE forced grouping, it smells of new world order / communism.


And thus, (for me) the Y-8 mining vessel is nothing but a storage shed in space...


granted its cool looking inside, but being FORCED to take a team with you to mine..


how many friggen peeps are gonna say yah space minings the bomb, lets all go together


on that y-8 and domining as a team!!. lord knows it takes 34653645 pilots to play asteroids....


IMHO the Y-8 mining vessel is nothing but a huge chunk of space crappage and thats sad.


Wynn814
Fri May 06, 2005 11:49 pm
#13

Let it tractor beam in the large chunks, that woul be the easy fix.



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