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Thread: Drunken Bumblebee effect what causes this?

mclouj
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:31 pm
#1

I think this has already been posted a gajillion times already but the good ol forum search isnt working again - I am experiencing horrible symptoms of the "Drunken Bumblebee" effect.


Other ships are lollygaggin all over the place when I launch into space. At first i thought it was lag, then I checked my network status window (which conveniently disappears after each login) and my ping was a nice steady 230, with 0% packet loss which is perfectly normal. Occaisionally my ship will stop still, jump 1 k in any direction then jump back again as an added bonus.


I remember reading about this problem in the beta for JtL but I never actually experienced it myself.I seem to remember it being put down to lag...


I have just recently bought a new Joystick (Logitech force feedback thingamy) and I was wondering whether this could have caused any issues. All drivers for every bit of hardware I own is completely up to date, my connection is fast and has no issues while playing on the ground (even in badly lagged out areas like the Dant MO) only in space.


I have not been able to fly for about a week now, and the issue just won't go away. Any other pilots out there have any idea what might be causing it or have any suggesitons on what I could do to rectify the problem?



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mclouj
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:21 am
#2

Yeh I've tried all sectors of space, same thing still occurs.


Damn Bria.




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Darkknight109
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:22 am
#3

I'm fairly sure it's lag. When I was at home on a dial-up connection, I would get this whenever I entered Kashyyyk Space, or whenever a mission spawned more than about 10 ships. It got really, REALLY annoying. At any rate, now that I'm back up in rez, I'm back on high-speed and have yet to see a single drunken bumblebee. The only lag I get is due to lack of RAM in my laptop, and that's just the usual freezing for a few seconds.



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Shadow-Walker
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:25 am
#4


well I use to have it, but some guy posted it has to do with (yes lag) but more interferance from your pc.


link 1 to tech thread, 3rd option down on the top issues.







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mclouj
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:27 am
#5

The crazy thing is the ground game doesnt lag at all (well my ping may be 230 but it is rock solid and never really goes higher than 300). I have 1.5mbps ADSL and I have never had an issue in space until about 2 weeks ago. Granted, Bria has been having a bunch of difficulties lately but I have never had lag in space before.



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mclouj
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:34 am
#6






Shadow-Walker wrote:


well I use to have it, but some guy posted it has to do with (yes lag) but more interferance from your pc.


link 1 to tech thread, 3rd option down on the top issues.









Yes, thats the article I remember thankyou. Now, this has me thinking - the interferance is most likely being caused by the force feedback "rumble pack" thingy in my joystick. That is the only likely source of inteferance I can find, and the only thing that has changed since the DB issue started. The joystick has a seperate power cord for the force feedback that runs along next to my phone line and past my router.


That's my best guess - I'll check it out when I get home to see if this is whats causing the problem.


Thanks for the link!





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Zedzuada
Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:50 am
#7

It still might be lag. The network monitor often stops updating, especially when crossing server boundaries or loading into new zones.

To see your real network status, open the more general monitor (with ctrl-shift-G). When that one is open, you'll notice that the regular network monitor updates too.


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mclouj
Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:00 am
#8






Zedzuada wrote:
It still might be lag. The network monitor often stops updating, especially when crossing server boundaries or loading into new zones.

To see your real network status, open the more general monitor (with ctrl-shift-G). When that one is open, you'll notice that the regular network monitor updates too.


Zeddd





Yeh thats the oneI use. The smaller one disappears from my interface everytimeI log out.


It is indicating that there is no packet loss, and my ping is fluctuating between 230-250 regualrly. Its a right pickle. I will check everything again when I get home and see what happens.





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AnvilX
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:56 am
#9

The effect is caused by the Logitech Drivers. I have a Wingman Force 3D as well. And as soon as I installed the drivers I got the DB-effect. Try to uninstall the joystick drivers and do a reboot.
I can play with my Logitech joystick without any problems now. The downside is, you won't have any force feedback effects.
Sadly there seems to be no other fix for it that I am aware of.
Attacca
Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:00 am
#10

When it happened to me it was a simple matter of getting online and makign sure I had the most up to date drivers, and making sure old drivers were cleaned off completely. There are a number of utilities for this, you'll need to do some searching. It's worth while though, driver conflicts cause a lot of computer issues.





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AnvilX
Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:25 am
#11



Attacca wrote:
When it happened to me it was a simple matter of getting online and makign sure I had the most up to date drivers, and making sure old drivers were cleaned off completely. There are a number of utilities for this, you'll need to do some searching. It's worth while though, driver conflicts cause a lot of computer issues.





Tried all that, but the only thing that worked for me was uninstalling all of the Logi drivers and use the windows standard ones (without FF )

There is a huge thread about it on the tech support forum, they suggested lots of things, including turning off stuff in the bios (spread spectrum). Even the most recent drivers didnt work.

Are you using a Logitech FF joystick with Logitech drivers? Flying with a 3-axis-joystick is nice, but FF would be nicer. ;-)
Tapoh
Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:49 am
#12

Beer often causes this effect for me....I have no idea where I'm flying...I just shoot alot and roll



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Thunderbyte
Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:01 pm
#13

Well I think it's safe to say it's not your joystick... and if you don't think it's a problem on your computer (which it doesn't sound like), then it would be a problem on the server that you happen to be on (not the galaxy, but the actual server of which there are many per galaxy).


You could always try flying in a different sector of space, or try playing at another time when you think the server load would be a little lighter, not that many people have the luxory of playing at those off times.





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