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ventilador wrote:

mass is indridibly low but best i got was this:

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ventilador wrote:

Well, i can load all crap and a rhiixzrik ship (whoever it is spelled) dues its 190k mass, but having a crappy 1998 joystick and very bad manubarivility it sux bad, so i decied to suit better on a b-22 ship for pve and helping friends.

im pilot 4433 btw

mass is indridibly low but best i got was this:

-lvl 2 reactor with 2466 mas and 14193 energy,

This should be good.

-crafted lvl 7 engine with 61 to ypr and 101 speed 12900 mass,

this engine is fine for PvE especially in a bel-22. I use to PvP with a similar engine in my JSF

-shields lvl 5 with 13k mass 1065hp and 7.01 recharge rate

You can get a lvl 7 with 1900 f/b from almost any SW. The best thing here would be to use your you lvl 8 reward shield which after RE should be 2555 f/b.

-crafted lvl 5 capacitator with 6k mass, 1045 enrery and 41.7 recharge rate

Definitly switch to a RE lvl 2. With WO3 and two weapons you need about a 37+ recharge. You can also save some mass here.

-weapon 1 reward (i think from rsf) lvl 8 weapon 2387-3692 38k mass .625 vs shields .625 vs armor, 14.1/energry shot and .425 refire rate

-weapon 2 its a lvl 7 looted red, with 15750 mass 1760-2804 .650 vs shields, .640 vs armor, 23.6/energy shot, .320 refire rate

These weapons are ok but get them RE'd as soon as possible. I used a L7 and a L6 on mine which gave me plenty of firepower and alot of mass to use for shield.

total around 89k mass, i tested this ship and it was very easy to handle, this par of guns are very very deadly from what some peaple have told me, i have no porblerm against any tier 4 ship, and well. im not that expert on space, jsut wanna know what is good, what is bad, what i need to change exactly.

PD: sorry for crappy english, im spanish

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Also for a Droid interface go with a crafted L1, 3, or 5. (depending on available mass). Also try to fit in a couple L1 armor slabs. its not much protection but I have had it save my rear on more than one occasion.

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kihoc wrote:

Ok I'm going to start off by saying I'm by no means an expert...I have about a month and a half in this game...maybe two months. I'm also told I'm extremely picky about my parts....by vets. Ok now that that is out of the way I am going to be really blunt about this but no offense is intended.

-lvl 2 reactor with 2466 mas and 14193 energy,

your reactor is fine

-crafted lvl 7 engine with 61 to ypr and 101 speed 12900 mass,

complete crap...either get a lvl 6 with 69ish y/p/r and re it or get a lvl 8 qid

-shields lvl 5 with 13k mass 1065hp and 7.01 recharge rate

Again complete crap...I mean really you can get a lvl 7 shield that has about 2k shielding 15 recharge and only weighs 14k mass...

-crafted lvl 5 capacitator with 6k mass, 1045 enrery and 41.7 recharge rate

This is the STUPIDEST thing I see...and I see it all the time. higher lvl parts does NOT mean better. You can easily get a 1kish energy and 40ish recharge lvl 2 cap....unless you are using this for its higher hps take this out NOW.

-weapon 1 reward (i think from rsf) lvl 8 weapon 2387-3692 38k mass .625 vs shields .625 vs armor, 14.1/energry shot and .425 refire rate

Get this RE'd then it will be worth using...you can get the mass down to about 24k easily...

-weapon 2 its a lvl 7 looted red, with 15750 mass 1760-2804 .650 vs shields, .640 vs armor, 23.6/energy shot, .320 refire rate

This is fine I suppose...

One thing you failed to list is the drain on these parts...drain is extremely important when you want to start running those higher end programs. Then again I don't even see a DI listed....

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What is your problem? This person came here for help, not help mixed with insults. Whether you intended to offend or not, this is not the type of attitude we like to see on these boards. So in short if you can't refrain from being an ass, please limit yourself to posting on the jedi/BH forums.

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TalKurgan wrote:

First thing's first: 90k is HUGE for the speed, maneuverability, small profile

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Changed for truth!

Good start, for the most part. I agree with the posters here in saying that you'd save yourself a lot of room by getting a smaller cap. As a shipwright, I'm astounded by the ammount of level 5 and 7 capacitors sold from my vendor to people outfitting small (and I mean 2 weapons or less) ships.

I don't have a problem with the Crafted 100spd burners for PVE. I use one. But I agree that the Quantum Ion Drive is ideal.

I used a Level 8 & Level 6 combo for weapons on my Belbullab, as I was able to put together a Level 6 with the same damage output as your average 7, but with better Effectivness, and about 5k lower mass. But 8 & 7 is good, too. Get them Reverse Engineered.

Not sure where your power is at, but you might be able to get away with a Level 1 crafted reactor with around 12k output. Save you some mass. I can overload that, then overload the Engine, Capacitor and Weapons without any problems.

Mark 4 Crafted Sheild, 1950 f/b would be a good upgrade. But look into getting the Level 8 Reward Shield installed.

Small Droid Interface, Small Booster, Ordnance if you like, and Armor to fit whatever room you have left.

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PaceNebulon wrote:

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kihoc wrote:

Ok I'm going to start off by saying I'm by no means an expert...I have about a month and a half in this game...maybe two months. I'm also told I'm extremely picky about my parts....by vets. Ok now that that is out of the way I am going to be really blunt about this but no offense is intended.

-lvl 2 reactor with 2466 mas and 14193 energy,

your reactor is fine

-crafted lvl 7 engine with 61 to ypr and 101 speed 12900 mass,

complete crap...either get a lvl 6 with 69ish y/p/r and re it or get a lvl 8 qid

-shields lvl 5 with 13k mass 1065hp and 7.01 recharge rate

Again complete crap...I mean really you can get a lvl 7 shield that has about 2k shielding 15 recharge and only weighs 14k mass...

-crafted lvl 5 capacitator with 6k mass, 1045 enrery and 41.7 recharge rate

This is the STUPIDEST thing I see...and I see it all the time. higher lvl parts does NOT mean better. You can easily get a 1kish energy and 40ish recharge lvl 2 cap....unless you are using this for its higher hps take this out NOW.

-weapon 1 reward (i think from rsf) lvl 8 weapon 2387-3692 38k mass .625 vs shields .625 vs armor, 14.1/energry shot and .425 refire rate

Get this RE'd then it will be worth using...you can get the mass down to about 24k easily...

-weapon 2 its a lvl 7 looted red, with 15750 mass 1760-2804 .650 vs shields, .640 vs armor, 23.6/energy shot, .320 refire rate

This is fine I suppose...

One thing you failed to list is the drain on these parts...drain is extremely important when you want to start running those higher end programs. Then again I don't even see a DI listed....

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What is your problem? This person came here for help, not help mixed with insults. Whether you intended to offend or not, this is not the type of attitude we like to see on these boards. So in short if you can't refrain from being an ass, please limit yourself to posting on the jedi/BH forums.

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He did not make any personal attacks at all, and everything he says is correct. If you think he actually was making personalinsults then you are quite immature.If you are going toactas the self appointed protector ofthe feelings of people who SHOULD know better than to make stupid statements, then perhaps you should remove yourself to the BH/Jedi forum. Perhaps you should wait to see if the OP is immature and cant take criticism without bursting into tears, or is actually mature and sensible and willing to learn, and on that note,

Anyway, when flying a ship i follow this rule.

1. Good lvl 1 to 3 reactor.

2. REed lvl 6 or 8 engine.

3. Crafted lvl 7 shields or REed protectonet or Reed lvl 8 reward shield

4. REed lvl 2 or 4 capacitor

5. Crafted lvl 7 guns or REed lvl 7/8 reward guns

6. A low mass DI (the higher the speed the better, the lower the mass the better, whatever fits really)

7. REed lvl 2 or 4 booster

8. A bit of armour

9. a countermeasures system.

Then start tweaking. Those crafted bits I mention, when replaced with REs should free up some mass for more tweaking, i.e. increasing armour, or the DI lvl.

The mass of a JSF is stupendously high and you should be able to kit out easily. If you really are having trouble with this it might be good to go back and try another squadron without the use of the ROTW ships, that way you will learn how to fit out a chassis so that it becomes second nature to you.

EDIT - oh yeah, when people like pace here tell you to RE ASAP, dont! Spend some time looking around the vendor search, and checking what you loot, you can come up with some really great REs if you just have the patience, especially for weapons, where crafteds will easily suffice until you RE some cool guns.

Message Edited by CuchulainnDarklight on 10-14-2005 10:20 AM

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kihoc wrote:

Oh good lord so much fuss over something so silly. As I said in the orginal post no offense was intended. The person took none in my opinions on his/her parts and said thanks for the feedback. In a perfect world it would of ended there. Of course though someone has to jump in and try to make this into a big deal. There is in my opinion no harm in saying a stupid moveis infact a stupid move. It is nowhere near saying "I think you are stupid" as even the smartest person can have a lapse in judgement, just not think something out entirely, or not have all the informationand make a "stupid move". The cap was a stupid move and I pointed this out and explained why. If I was truely out to be hurtful why would I go through the trouble of explaining...or hell even giving such a break down of what needed improvement?

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QFE.

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kihoc wrote:

-crafted lvl 5 capacitator with 6k mass, 1045 enrery and 41.7 recharge rate

This is the STUPIDEST thing I see...and I see it all the time. higher lvl parts does NOT mean better. You can easily get a 1kish energy and 40ish recharge lvl 2 cap....unless you are using this for its higher hps take this out NOW.

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