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Laaba
Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:11 pm
#1
TomoRainer,
I was wondering if we might be able to get a "sticky" post showing us what is the BEST that is out there in ship parts. I think this would be alot of help to the majority of the players doing space.
I my self am not the person to do this as I just plain an simple don't know enough to even begin it... lol even though I have over 22 mill prestige points.
What I am looking for is info on what player made is the BEST for example, I have never seen dropped weapons that canequal or are better than player made [I am talking top end player made]. What if anything that is player made is better than dropped loot.
On the other hand I have some dropped loots like a re eng reactor that is 33k mass an 36k output, a lvl 6 cap 9323.3 mass an 44 recharge rate, a lvl 5 droid interface 500 mass an 13.7 time. In this case I have never seen a player made item come close to these stats.
I have some other loots like lvl 10 caps with a 57 rr but they are high mass is there a very low mass one that can be combined with it to come up with something GREAT? I have lvl 10 engines with YPR over 75 [beween a few engines] but top speed is high 80's. Is there some extremely fast engine out there? These engines are high mass is there a really low mass one that will combine with these to make a OMGosh engine?
I know this would be alot of work to break things down by lvl an individual parts and listing the all important MASS... but I think it would really help people.
One of the things a list like this would do is enable people to say well I have 89k mass or 211k mass or 5 mill mass an figure out how to best equipt there ships. I know not ever one wants to do pvp but even if u don't outfitting your ship for pvp just makes killing stuff easier.
If this sounds 2 complicated or out of line I understand... thanks for taking the time an reading this! 
psikobunny
Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:16 pm
#2
Sounds like a good project, go for it! We eagerly await your post.
Electro5
Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:31 pm
#3
For what is better looted/player made.....
Reactor - For the most part, player made. Although there are rare loot reactors that are very high generation rate with a fairly low level/mass (I've seen level 4 reactors with 18k energy, and a couple of level 8 reactors with 25k+ energy)
Engine - For pure speed, player crafted engines are the absolute best. For more balanced PYR and Speed, best bet is probably some kind of reward engine (Level 6 reward for all factions, level 8 privateer reward, or level 8 engine from the starmap quest), Reverse Engineered with loot engines to get a high PYR. Pure loot engines tend to have low speed, so reward is really the only way to get decent speed unless your incredibly lucky, or buy from players.
Capacitor - Player crafted caps SUCK! I have never seen a good one, and there are quite plentiful amounts of good looted caps out there. Most common seem to be Lvl 4 with recharge in the low-mid 40's, Lvl 6 with regen in the mid-high 40's, and level 8 with regen above 50. Regen is the most important stat for a capacitor, especially with Cap Overload, so you should first and foremost go for high regen, and then find one with decent max energy to RE it with (1100 or above is very nice). I have 2 that are both level 6, one is 45 regen and 1300 max capacity, and another is 48 regen and 1200 capacity.
Droid Interface - Depends. If you can find a pre-nerf looted DI (level 1 DI with around 15 speed), then that is the best you can get for the weight. But if not, then crafted DI's tend to be better.
Booster - Crafted tend to be better for top speed, looted tend to be better for sustained boosts. Again, reward boosters are a big key for RE'ing a very nice booster, as they tend to have much higher maximum energy than looted ones, but at a very high booster energy drain. RE it with a looted booster that has a lower drain, and you can get boosters that last 10 seconds or longer. My personal RE'd booster has 140 booster energy drain with 26 speed and 2100 max booster energy, its RE'd from loot and the level 4 reward booster. Nice weight too, since its only level 4.
Armor - In my opinion, looted armor tends to be a waste of time. The weight tends to be high if you also have high protection, which means you have to RE it to lower the weight. But since armor is fairly disposable compared to other parts, its often not with the trouble of RE'ing it. I'd go crafted, as the protection values tend to be higher than looted anyway, and you can easily get more.
Weapons - This is another one that depends on what you want it for. Crafted guns can be made very fast-firing, so it is ideal if your aim is not the best. Looted tend to be slower firing, but do more damage and have a higher Vs. Shield and Vs. Armor rating (since you can RE looted stuff, you can get a looted Ion Cannon and a looted Disruptor and put them together into a weapon with high rate against both). Crafted weapons also have a very limited number of different graphics (red/green lasers, and a couple different ones for the Ion/Disruptors) so if you want to have, say, purple lasers then you'll need to get looted ones. Once again, if your RE'ing loot the reward guns (though you don't get that many) tend to be very good components as a part of it. In particular, the level 8 weapons and Priv/Rebel gets has 14 energy per shot, which is about 20 less than what you can find on loot, and very high damage.
KaylBreinhar
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:47 pm
#4
Just to show you that I kick it OLD SCHOOL...
Picture is about 570k - not exactly dialup-friendly. Plus, I'm working on a sister weapon to this which'll come in a shade under 5k.
Picture is about 570k - not exactly dialup-friendly. Plus, I'm working on a sister weapon to this which'll come in a shade under 5k.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-28-2005 02:49 AM
Coreena
Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:28 am
#5
Thats a really sweet blaster.
but 40k mass is quite a bit for the little TIE that I fly
I agree a list where people post some "exeptional" or "my best" REd loot would be nice, but don't ask Tomo to compile a list please, a task like that can never really be accomplished, but feel free to try it if you want
but 40k mass is quite a bit for the little TIE that I fly
I agree a list where people post some "exeptional" or "my best" REd loot would be nice, but don't ask Tomo to compile a list please, a task like that can never really be accomplished, but feel free to try it if you want
Laaba
Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:18 am
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I agree a list where people post some "exeptional" or "my best" REd loot would be nice, but don't ask Tomo to compile a list please, a task like that can never really be accomplished, but feel free to try it if you want.
OH OH OH sorry I did not mean to suggest Tomo to actually do this himself. But he would have to be behind the project so to speak to if nothing else "sticky" it. His involvment in coordinating this would probably be necessary as well. On the other hand it would take a effort by all our members to get screen shots of the BEST of the BEST.
TomoRainer
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:33 am
#7
Sure, I could definitely help out with a project like this. Just let me know what you need.
Voodez
Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:55 am
#8
difficult to say one person has the best of a certain component, unless theirs beats everyone elses in all stat departments, or at least most - the easist way to do it would probably be to post what you have which you think is really good here, and then edit the first message or make a new thread with a list of the best 3 componets at a certain level say.ie top 3 level 1-10 weapons/engines/reactors etc etc -dunno just a thought.
KaylBreinhar
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:36 pm
#9
Also, I'm kicking myself now for not calling it "Hattori Hanzo's Revenge." Though I think apostrophes and the word "the" are automatic disqualifiers. I couldn't call the weapon the Wrath of God because of the G-word, so I went old-school.
"If on your flight, should you encounter God...even God will be fragged."
"If on your flight, should you encounter God...even God will be fragged."
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 06-28-2005 03:36 AM
Washell
Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:11 pm
#10
Working on this. Should get the first draft up end of the week.
Kssob
Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:22 pm
#11
This is a worthy project. Something players would appreciate and use.
There will always be pilots who want to see how their stuff matches up to other peoples.
However, the best depends a lot on definition. For example, it might be more important for me to have a Droid Interface that weighs less than 1K and is around 13 speed. And for a friend of mine, he may not care about the mass, but only the fastest DI in the galaxy. So I'd recommend 3-5 different listings for each component. I know that sounds like a lot, but certain components, like weapons, have damage, refire rate, mass, and vs. armor/shields. Engines alone would be a huge listing because what I consider 1337 is not what Kayl considers 1337 (Tie Advanced, it's the way to go, man).
Coreena
Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:24 pm
#12
Laaba wrote:OH OH OH sorry I did not mean to suggest Tomo to actually do this himself. But he would have to be behind the project so to speak to if nothing else "sticky" it. His involvment in coordinating this would probably be necessary as well. On the other hand it would take a effort by all our members to get screen shots of the BEST of the BEST.
Oh, sorry, misunderstood you then.
Well as was said, its hard to decide whats "best", since whats better depends on the situation, the other equipment, and personal preference (example, some like fast blasters, others like those with more bang per shot even if slower)
Whats possible, and probably makes more sense, is to somehow compile a list in the first post of whats the best for different stats, so people can see how well their REd loot compares to that.
But perhaps a "second-best" or "average stats" list would make sense too, or a "most seem to be in the range of this" list. That way one single exceptional drop with a chance of 1/20000 doesn't mess the list up, and makes people feel their good drops are crap
Washell
Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:09 pm
#13
Decided to go ahead with just the level 10 data so far. 2,4,6,8 and some level 7 and 9 (weapons + reactors) will be entered during the week. Other odd level loot data will be entered when I loot it or supplied by others. Last link in the sig for those that want to check it out.
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