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Thread: Anyone else out there getting this???

JonSolo2u
Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:02 pm
#1

Hi there,

I've been having my joysticks cut out on me recently. They just go dead, completely unresponsive. Never had this happen before but since pub 19 its happened 4 times. Extremely annoying as it only occurs while in combat, and usually pretty heavy combat, LOL... I use a Saitek X45 but have never had probs with it before. The only way to fix it is to log and do a reboot. Anyone else having this problem or maybe havea less time consuming fix to it???
idolatry
Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:09 pm
#2


Nope, haven't seen that myself.


You using the latest stable build of the saitek drivers? Tried another joystick? Does it happen in any other games?



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JonSolo2u
Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:30 pm
#3


Ack, just happened again, WTH!!!


I had previously changed to a diff usb port and done a full scan before my original post.


Bloody hell is this aggravating, arrggghhhhhhh!!!


To the previous poster: Thx for your reply, yes I do have a diff Joystick to try, but all my stuff is mapped to this one, theres a ton of buttons on the X45 plus its got the left hand controller for throttle, among other things. No I have not seen it happen in other games nor had i seen it happen in SWG before pub 19. Since then it has been a random occurrance as well, the other day i was in space for hours before it hit. Today it seems to be re-occurring a lot faster.


If it means anything im a tier 4 reb, doing missions in Yavin...


gonna uninstall and reinstall the driver software for the stick now, wish me luck



LeaphChausew
Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:56 pm
#4

This is where I say....mouse pilot for the win.


But in order to be constructive. Why not try another joystick just for a test even if you don't use that joystick permanently? You'll be at least be able to see then if the problem is SWG or the stick itself.


Sounds to me like the cable might have got damaged. Happened to the headphones I used for TS...ran the cable over with my rolly chair without realising...I now get sound but no speakin' back .


-Leaph


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JonSolo2u
Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:09 pm
#5

Thx for the reply Leaph, ya gonna have to try that, cuz it just happened again, ack!!!


Although, if anyone else is havin this prob i have now realized that unpluggin the usb cable then replugging it will clear the prob. Came back about 30 secs later tho....


I literally have changed nothing however, and the cables are really not in a position to be damaged.


I gotta Logitech stick i can try out, but im gonna try to ride thru the night on this crippled saitek, gotta get that last tier 4 box before dbl xp goes away. Dont wanna spend time re congifuring my key maps and such, plus i gotta hell of a rythm goin with this X45 after a year or so using it here, everything just happens subconciously these days, hehe



KaylBreinhar
Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:13 pm
#6

I hate to say it, but Saitek isn't exactly known for its stellar build quality.

The X52 is nice-looking and all.......but I'd go for function over form anyday. Of course, with JTL it doesn't matter, because I'm a KeyMouser.



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JonSolo2u
Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:19 pm
#7

So Kayl, do u think the stick is toast then???


Its been bout a year, im sure any warranty would be void by a year. LOL, it's true that engineers are paid to design things to break 1 day after the warranty expires. I know, I employ some...


Ugghhh, gonna have to do the Logitech test to find out for sure i guess.


thanks for your input guys


KaylBreinhar
Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:23 pm
#8

All I know is it seems the only Saitek's I've heard people gush about are their cheaper "Cyborg" line. I owned a gameport X45 a few years back and HATED it.

The response was always mushy, like the base was filled with mashed potatoes, and yeah, the connection kept dropping out.

Personally, I think the twisty-handle Logitech is the best setup for this game now that the MS Sidewinder brand is gone. People use setups that are far too complex for a game so mind-numbingly simple.

On the 5th, go out and buy Falcon 4.0: Allied Force - THEN you might need a HOTAS setup.



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SheenaBrelya
Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:37 pm
#9

To let you know, I've heard of people who use an inverted mouse setup with a keyboard/mouse have been having problems since Pub 19, as well. Seems the mouse stops controlling pitch when Inverted is checked. It's always possible something went into the code in Pub 19 that is affecting some flight control situations.

Shona
JonSolo2u
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:26 pm
#10

Thanks for the info Shona. I'll take a look at my settings when i get home and see if that is checked.


Anyone else out there having your controls take a dump on ya?


AzzixxSWG
Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:41 pm
#11

Once I got the x52 I retired my x45. But yes I have had problems with anything connected to 2 of my 4 USB ports. I don't know what it is but 2 of my USB ports are flaky. The 2 ports that do work perfectly are on a USB 2 card. The 2 that are lame are the ones on my system board.


It could also be you have an x45 with a loose wire or the surfaces of the USB connector and USB socket have gotten oxidized. While the power is off use contact cleaner and wait 30 minutes before turning the PC on.



JonSolo2u
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:15 pm
#12

Thanks for the advice Azzixx. Gonna flip some ports around when i get home and clean the contact as well. Hehe, I see what you're saying about the x52 retiring your x45. I've been shopping around for a new one today in case it is that my stick has died on me and its definately that or the Thrustmaster Couger. But that stick is about $250, cough... The x52 definately does look sweet, and i love the fact that they put the rudder on the stick rather than the throttle. Do you find yours smooth, my x45 has always been a bit sticky?
Alyxian
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:57 pm
#13

Point of referance, I have been using the X45 without troubles. Did you recently update windows? and did that update have any USB "fixes"? Sounds like your USB port may be flakey, or as mentioned, the cable.





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