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Thread: our block

Willbaby
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:16 pm
#1

it needs fixed. its stupid how i have to switch to another proffesions weapon if i dont want to take 50% damage from the attacks commin in. leaves us at a great disadvantage




Alita'GSA
12pt Master(Very Bored) Weaponsmith.
[Alita']s Weapons - Imperial Outpost Talus @ Wp[-1960 2170]
Willbaby
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:27 pm
#2

sorry if post seems a tad pointless as we all know ov this crappy situation, just spent the entire night dueling and if it wernt for block i may have stood a chance.




Alita'GSA
12pt Master(Very Bored) Weaponsmith.
[Alita']s Weapons - Imperial Outpost Talus @ Wp[-1960 2170]
Chibi-Tux
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:29 pm
#3

As a Master Pikeman myself, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, or what your problem with Block is... The way you phrased it sounds like its working fine and you are blocking 50% of all attacks thrown at you, and somehow you are mad... I'm greatly confused. Maybe I haven't been a Pikeman long enough, but I don't understand what you are saying


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DomMantell
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:37 am
#4

When you first look at it, Block seems woefully inadequate compared to Dodge

Dodge avoids all damage when it triggers, Block allows 50% of the damage through

I recently mastered fencer with one of my chars & I can tell you now. Dodge is not perfect.

Dodge is triggered based upon the attacker's accuracy, a low accuracy mob will rarely hit you and you'll appear invulnerable.

There are certain mobs however who have virtually 100% accuracy, NS Elders are a good example. They will virtually never miss you. Against mobs like this, Dodge will hardly ever trigger leaving you very vulnerable.

Block may appear ineffective, but I'd rather have block when facing high level mobs than Dodge any day
Willbaby
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:29 am
#5

yeah dont have much problem with it in pve, its pvp where the sytem is really flawed or we could fight till the cows come home if it wasnt.




Alita'GSA
12pt Master(Very Bored) Weaponsmith.
[Alita']s Weapons - Imperial Outpost Talus @ Wp[-1960 2170]
Krul
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:34 am
#6

No hes right this is another example of the flawed classes. Not to mention pikeman toughness vs every other melee class or all the other ridiculous imbalances in damage, state defenses, speed, utility, etc. Face it man they dont care.



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annelid0
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:26 am
#7


DomMantell wrote:

There are certain mobs however who have virtually 100% accuracy, NS Elders are a good example. They will virtually never miss you. Against mobs like this, Dodge will hardly ever trigger leaving you very vulnerable.

Block may appear ineffective, but I'd rather have block when facing high level mobs than Dodge any day


I haven't specifically tested dodge, but block and counterattack function identically to one another (with the exception of block taking 50% damage). Against a NS Elder neither triggers all that often, against a very low-accuracy attacker both appear to trigger a lot. I've seen no evidence that suggests dodge should function any differently.

If you're right and you're better off having block than dodge against high-level stuff then you're better off having counterattack than either of them.



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Ilykerrimo
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theorb22
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:04 pm
#8

It does? excuse me for being new and all, but how would having more block make you have more armor decay? sounds to me that if damage went through block first that it would hit your armor for less...





november 5th 2005- greatest hotfix ever
" you may now board shuttle while burstrunning, running normally, shuffling, walking, standing, sitting, prone, hopskipping, jumping, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU MAY NOW BOARD SHUTTLE WHILE BREATHING!!!!"
annelid0
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:22 pm
#9


theorb22 wrote:
It does? excuse me for being new and all, but how would having more block make you have more armor decay? sounds to me that if damage went through block first that it would hit your armor for less...



Block decreases armor decay compared to not blocking. It's higher decay than dodge and counterattack, both of which involve no armor decay at all. Block sucks compared to dodge and counterattack, but it is indeed better than nothing.



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Ilykerrimo
Grumpy Old Pikeman
Masochistic Wookiee

theorb22
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:51 pm
#10


Thanks! A guys gotta know things before he drops pistoleer for this.....





november 5th 2005- greatest hotfix ever
" you may now board shuttle while burstrunning, running normally, shuffling, walking, standing, sitting, prone, hopskipping, jumping, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU MAY NOW BOARD SHUTTLE WHILE BREATHING!!!!"
Cryo_Coldlight
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:43 am
#11

There are 0 benifits to block aside from that pikeman have +10 more than anyone else has of their defense.

It really sucks becouse it makes your armro wear out much faster than swordsman or fencer.
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