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Thread: combat delay weakens pikeman even more
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pagon
Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:35 am
#1
with this new delay using different pikes in combat is no longer posible... ive tried to use pikeman as my main pvp for last 4 months and try to not attack mind pool like everyone esle but this isn't posible now. with the delay i can't stack dots as fast and when i do land a dot and try to switch to my 1293 lva the added delay give my target time to heal dot, stand back up, burst run away or heal his/her damage.. I've used my 1293 lva on melee profs and get 200-300 dam to random pools that can he healed simply by almost everyone. this lva vs a ranged only prof is murder as it does 300- 600 thx to damage bonus
this new "patch" only makes me have to do like everyone esle and attack mind pool with my swordsman half alone in pvp, thx devs 
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Chester_Copperpot
Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:51 am
#4
Maybe its just my natural optimistic attitude toward the game, but I havent had problems with the delay.I mean yeah, it does delay but its no big deal.Granted I dont PVP that much with pikeman, I use the pistols for that & I can see when you have mere seconds sometimes to make a desicion that it can cost you the fight.At the same time does no one use the clear combat que button?
Example: I found a tusken observer all by his lonesome.I have my health poison lance equiped.I spam PH3 till it lands the dot,while I spam I choose to equip my next lance which would be the fire dot to health,of course it wont equip yet.When I clear the que of the PH3's I was spamming with the poison lance equiped, magic happens.Wouldnt you know the next lance gets equiped.Then once that lance is equiped I continue to spam whatever till the dot lands.Clear que then equip the damage lance.Rinse & repeat.Few extra clicks here & there to fine tune it but no biggy.Just gotta adapt.
I dont know the /command for the clear combat que but I just keep my mouse over the clear button.
As for pvp it definatley will take more coordination.I'll do some pvp some over the weekend to see how bad its gotten.
Zews
Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:27 am
#5
Offcourse we use the clear combat que, but it's still delayed. Try switching weapons without using specials.
Nura
Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:52 am
#6
whine ... cry ... "WE" have been nerfed bla bla ...
whereever i go its the same. everyone thinks its especialy them who got nerfed. the fact that it hit all players doesnt seem to be important.
is it realy that hard to work out new tactics?
ok i have a delay when i equip anew weapon. so i need to delay the enemy to equipit and dont get to much harm.
what posibilites do we have here?
is it realy that hard to work out new tactics?
ok i have a delay when i equip anew weapon. so i need to delay the enemy to equipit and dont get to much harm.
what posibilites do we have here?
well there would be warcry1 ->only usefull for target unless u have warcry 2
how about lunge? -> same as warcry, just one target
how about lunge? -> same as warcry, just one target
and polearmsweep ? -> the good old knockdown, with sweep2 u can even delay all mobs arround u and have enuff time equip the new weapon
and for the PvP whiners ... your enemy has teh same problems like you do
PS: every typo i made here is fully wanted and only exists due to entertainment reasons
and for the PvP whiners ... your enemy has teh same problems like you do
PS: every typo i made here is fully wanted and only exists due to entertainment reasons
chorus13
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:36 am
#7
Pikeman needs no fix ... it is great I woop people left an right with dots and with out .. it is a very strong prof if used correctly...any prof is like that..
BTW I am a hardcore pvp'r so I know what I am talking about..
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SpunkyKuma
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:39 am
#8
I hardly ever switch weapons, so this particular nerf doesn't really affect me, and the nerf is for everyone not just Pikeman. It's a nerf to those who want to spam dozons of dots on a single target, giving the rest of the profs a big nerf of weapon delays.
I still like Pikeman, without relying on DOTs.
I still like Pikeman, without relying on DOTs.
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MrCorn
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:31 pm
#9
Exactly. It is a "nerf"(thats such aharsh word)for people who want to stack tons of DOTs.DOTs strategy is something that anyone can use...not just Pikeman. This is a combat balance that is going to be great for pvp. I was tired of beingtripple stacked on my mind pool and being killed within 30 secs..that just sucked ass...
SpunkyKuma wrote:
I hardly ever switch weapons, so this particular nerf doesn't really affect me, and the nerf is for everyone not just Pikeman. It's a nerf to those who want to spam dozons of dots on a single target, giving the rest of the profs a big nerf of weapon delays.
I still like Pikeman, without relying on DOTs.
Cryo_Coldlight
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:51 pm
#10
Folks, Pikeman is **edit**ing broken.
Pikeman has BEEN broken since day 1.
Pikeman has BEEN broken since day 1.
The only reason people forgot that pikeman sucked was becouse DOTs don't get stopped by armor.
Now that your DOTs arn't as usefull, you will all be able to enjoy the real proffesion you flocked to so you could be uber elite in PvP.
enjoy your new class.
GoCanes
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:12 pm
#11
I don't have a problem with the delay... I only change Pikes one time while fighting, but I don't PvP alot either, so that may change... I have my favorite weapons on a row of hotkeys adn the first one (F1) on that row is my clear combat queue macro...
The command for clear combat queue by the way is:
/ui action clearCombatQueue;
Make sure you match capitalization as above... ^_^
Nura
Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:51 pm
#12
Cryo_Coldlight wrote:
Folks, Pikeman is **edit**ing broken.
Pikeman has BEEN broken since day 1.
The only reason people forgot that pikeman sucked was becouse DOTs don't get stopped by armor.
Now that your DOTs arn't as usefull, you will all be able to enjoy the real proffesion you flocked to so you could be uber elite in PvP.
enjoy your new class.
why is it our DOTs? currenbtly its YOUR DOTs
all the delay whinersseem just to be upset that they just cant stack their 3 minddots as easy before. beeing pikeman doesnt mean spaming DOTs. its a matter of playing and of lifestyle.
uh andbtw. Pikeman isnt broken, hes just gimped. the fact that a master TKA outdamages me with bare hands, while i am wearing my big motherfeckµcking pike is the only thing which makes me upset. area dizzy, area stun, area knockdown ... give us a area intimidate or even better a area root/snare and call us crowd control master
ScDarkKnight
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:15 am
#13
I'm one of these Pikeman that use tons and tons of Dots in PvP (And I was MPike long before the first dot lance appeared on my server btw ... I'm no l33t freak) and I actually like the weapon delay change ... we used to be completly overpowered with the right equipment ... now we're more decent.
I don't like the fact we can clear the combat queue to avoid the delay though ... I mean, we shouldn't be able to avoid it
I think combat is more interesting with the delay, you actually have to think when you should change weapon (granted to do not clear your combat queue) ... if you change too soon or too late you might lose the fight because of it ... it's funnier this way.
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