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Thread: FUTURE CHANGES ID LIKE TO SEE TO PIKEMAN

Adees
Sun Jul 04, 2004 5:50 pm
#1

alright ive been a pvp pikeman for a long time (month or so before stacking was nerfed) and i love the profession. In a pvp setting, a pikeman and a fencer have about the same tactics. They both need to be very close to their prey and they both use DoTs for the dmg. MOST of the time i see fencers coming out on top (not against me because adees=teh pwnz0r hehe) and the reasons why are very obvious: fencers have defense likeamother **edit**er! A fencer has 60ish to the most important secondary defenses (kd, posture down, dizzy, stun, blind, all of that) as oposed to pikemans 20. Fencer gets about 70 melee/ranged defense as well, not to mention that they have DODGE, the very best defense a person can ask for. I think that if you gave pikeman a boost in the secondary defenses like kd, posture down and dizzy, the fencer/pikeman duels would be alot more even. let me know what you guys think but in my opinion that would give pikeman the extra beefage that they deserve!



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st0nedpenguin
Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:07 pm
#2

I've only been pikeman for a few days now, but I've been duelling without dots with a friend of mine who is also now a pikeman, and against a few fencer/stacker friends, and have been thinking the same thing.


A little bump in defences and maybe a little increase of the min damage on our weapons to let us actually deal some damage in pvp, would bringpikeman more in line with the other melee professions, and remove a lot of the reliability on dots.





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mk86
Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:53 am
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turrix wrote:

Then again, when do you see fencers with weapons like this

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=64021






holy sh!t where did u find that?




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st0nedpenguin
Mon Jul 05, 2004 6:21 am
#4






turrix wrote:

Then again, when do you see fencers with weapons like this

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=64021







The sad thing is, with a 350ish max dmg Acklay stun baton, you'd probably do more damage in PVP than you would with that beast of an LVA.





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la1fan
Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:58 am
#5

yeah, I totally agree.

Pikeman reallly needs some love. The 75 speed at master sucks.. the defense sucks... and even offense. But I still love pikeman.


I would give up all my DoTs to see Pikeman get some better defense/offence



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la1fan
Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:59 am
#6

p.s...


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Serenius
Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:05 am
#7




st0nedpenguin wrote:

The sad thing is, with a 350ish max dmg Acklay stun baton, you'd probably do more damage in PVP than you would with that beast of an LVA.



Mine hits from 300-2.1k in PvP. About 300-1k against anyone with Melee DM3.



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trueFlaw
Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:44 am
#8






Serenius wrote:




st0nedpenguin wrote:

The sad thing is, with a 350ish max dmg Acklay stun baton, you'd probably do more damage in PVP than you would with that beast of an LVA.




Mine hits from 300-2.1k in PvP. About 300-1k against anyone with Melee DM3.






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turrix
Mon Jul 05, 2004 12:23 pm
#9

Then again, when do you see fencers with weapons like this

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=64021



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ScDarkKnight
Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:55 am
#10






Serenius wrote:




st0nedpenguin wrote:

The sad thing is, with a 350ish max dmg Acklay stun baton, you'd probably do more damage in PVP than you would with that beast of an LVA.




Mine hits from 300-2.1k in PvP. About 300-1k against anyone with Melee DM3.






And 45-150 after a normal 85% PvP Armor

And about 15-75 after Intimidate and Stun


The guy will regain after than you can hit him ... and you'll lose 1 condition for each 10 hits or so ...

And he can always use a Stim Bs or Ds if something goes wrong



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Russ_Briggs
Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:33 am
#11

Turrix that is one nice looking LVA - I wan't one



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Nura
Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:15 am
#12

1. more speed, 75 isnt that much.

2. more defensives, i dont feel like a tank

3. if we dont get more defense, how about a area intimidate. let us be the area kings

4. better crafted weapons or at least a aopportunity to insert some real good loot stuff (like kryt tissues)into crafted ones.


and if we dont get any of these, give us the the imperial guard robe + helmet as master pikeman and i would be pleased



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Loarth
Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:01 am
#13

I have to agree that more defense is needed , the gulf between PvE and PvP is absolutely huge for a pikeman.
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