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Thread: Pikeman are the Tanks lol
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Malinko_Oknilam
Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:00 am
#1
I remember reading somewhere that one of the monkeys ..-er Devs, or Q-3PO was talking about pikeman. What got me was the idiot said we're the "Tanks". Is it just me or does this guy not play the game? Where did the Devs get the Idea we were "tanks"?? I mean come on, we're the weakest of the melee professions defense wise^^. Now heresthreepossible answersto consider, one has hope for us, the others do not.
Answer 1: We're bugged and the pikeman defenses were accidentally switched from fencer(not including dodge). If that was a possbility that would be awsum.
Answer 2: The Devs are ignorant enough to think we're tanks w/ the defenses they have purposly given us.
Answer 3: We were never meant to be the "tanks".
TurboSith
Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:37 am
#2
i think by tanks they mean.. its ok if we die.... we're fodder for the proffessions who hide behind their skills.. yet i bet we're the last to die .. i know i am.. when you dont have skills ot hide behind.. you're natural cunning comes in and you figure ways to succeed
Amped_Iceman
Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:47 am
#3
use your natural cunning to figure out ways to...run away...or swim away.
Ta10c
Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:05 am
#4
i thought he said that as what we WILL be after the combat rebalance.
but i really hope there was a bug and they got the fencer/pikeman defences mixed up lol
Conja-Copar
Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:05 am
#5
It is strange that they told us that. But switching defenses from fencers would be retarded.
What would fencer have left? They'd suck in PvE and PvP.
Metroid
Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:11 am
#6
Yes, being a pikeman makes you very efficient at running away, even without terrain neg.
Malinko_Oknilam
Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:22 am
#7
Conja-Copar wrote:
It is strange that they told us that. But switching defenses from fencers would be retarded.
What would fencer have left? They'd suck in PvE and PvP.
They already suck in PvP.
bmeenan
Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:20 pm
#8
Malinko, there's no need for name calling. 
Calling the devs things like idiots or monkeys will do little to help further the cause of the pikeman profession. Let's keep it positive and work towards making improvements on the profession instead.
Calling the devs things like idiots or monkeys will do little to help further the cause of the pikeman profession. Let's keep it positive and work towards making improvements on the profession instead.I have to say that, as a Master Pikeman, I dowell as a tank. You need to think about whata tank really is. It's not a massive damage dealer. It's just someone who can hold the agro while the ranged folk fire away from a far.
I think the difference when compared to Fencer is that Fencers are supposed to be hard to hit. Pikeman are supposed to be able to withstand a hard hit. I THINK that was the idea with block in that even though we may get hit, our block ability is supposed to reduce the damage we take byblocking some of it. It's almost like we need Melee Mit 4. Honestly? I wouldn't mind seeing pikeman get a boost to the "defense against" stuff.
Anyway, yeah the profession needs improvement as it stands right now. I'm very interested to see how we come out on the other side of the combat balance.
Best!
BPM
Malinko_Oknilam
Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:42 pm
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bmeenan wrote:
Malinko, there's no need for name calling.
I have to say that, as a Master Pikeman, I dowell as a tank. You need to think about whata tank really is. It's not a massive damage dealer. It's just someone who can hold the agro while the ranged folk fire away from a far.
I think the difference when compared to Fencer is that Fencers are supposed to be hard to hit. Pikeman are supposed to be able to withstand a hard hit. I THINK that was the idea with block in that even though we may get hit, our block ability is supposed to reduce the damage we take byblocking some of it. It's almost like we need Melee Mit 4. Honestly? I wouldn't mind seeing pikeman get a boost to the "defense against" stuff.
Anyway, yeah the profession needs improvement as it stands right now. I'm very interested to see how we come out on the other side of the combat balance.
Best!
BPM
I never said anything about dealing damage. Yes so if we're to withstand a hard hit, why do we have low defenses?
Lets do an experiment:
Takea fencer and a pikeman.
Now aside from fencer dodge and pikeman block, put the two against aNS protector each unamored. ....Who do you think will take on more damage?
The pikeman of of course, because he doesnt have a mad high melee def or toughness. If "Tanking" acually means first aggro on something and using up a lot of stims to stay alive then yeah wecouldbe tanks. Block does indeed help out a little bit, but its not enought to dub us the "Tanks". I'm interested as well as to what will happen to us come the CB Revamp.
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