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Thread: Hmm...so, [subj edited] seems intimidate isn't getting changed after all...

Braglor
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:05 pm
#1






atimes wrote:

Has anyone found a replacement for tat sunburns?



the new Breath of Heaven was suppose to be its predecessor... with heavy BE additives it can reach the 1500-2000 to str, quickness and focus if crafted well. Unfortunately the new BoHs duration is not balanced with its filling, rendering it kinda useless. I was hoping that the BoH and WonWon would take over for my previously used Sunburns and Ryschates, alas I was mislead. Seems to me we are suppose to be dependent on DOC buffs. oh well, with Brandy, Vagnerian and a buff, pikeMan life don't seem so bad for 2-3 hours I'm going to change to the pikeMan/Doc template when this publish 7 hits, unless they fix the master B issues and/or BoH

Locky-1138
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:17 pm
#2

*sigh* good bye master brawler, you were a good prof, hell, you unlocked my FSCS!


hello TK 4004, and ooh! novice medic again woo hoo





- I support keeping & balancing the current combat system You can too
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Lynisx
Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:24 pm
#3

Look at it this way, you get more skill points for other
stuff.



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antares_Kauri
Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:29 pm
#4

Well...It will have to be seen if lunge2 is worth the skill points. It's almost the only move I use in PvP, so unless that gets changed, I just might hang on to Master Brawler, not to mention the extra mods included. I have all the elite novices anyway.

antares
master pikeman



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StGabriel
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:07 pm
#5

Sorry about the false alarm.

I guess I should have waited for confirmation this time around, but I wanted to get the word out.

StGabe.



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antares_Kauri
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:20 pm
#6

Ah, no problem at all. Thanks for checking out things like that.



antares
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SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
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antares_Kauri
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:07 am
#7


So, StGabriel has been doing some brawler testing on TC and has come to some conclusions:

1. Warcry is not really useable in it's new state. In addition, resists have jumped.
2. Intimidate is also not as useable as resists have "sky-rocketed." You now get a msg when intimidate fails, and he said with warcry/int BE clothes, he tried 50 times to intimidate an Albatross and it never stuck.

So...bleed/DoT changes, defense mod capping, warcry changes/resists, increased intimidate resists...not looking good for master brawler nor the skills that we rely on to be effective.

If anyone has a TC account, let's all check this out, test it and try to generate some talk before and after this goes live.


[edited]


StGabe just mentioned that it seems it is just a bug and not an intentional change to intimidate. We can breathe again.


[/edited]


antares

master pikeman

Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 03-01-2004 06:34 PM



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SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
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atimes
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:18 am
#8

Perhaps this is what the devs meant that things would be horribly inbalanced while the combat revamp was being done.


Some things would be to easy, some things to hard. . . . guess we'll have to wait until the entire revamp is done. Of course it's no fun but what other choice do we have besides cancelling out accounts?


antares_Kauri
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:27 am
#9

Yeah, I thought of exactly that. The end-all combat passes will hopefully sort all this out. We'll have to see, I guess...but for the time being, this is what we're faced with. Losing intimidate's usefulness will be painful, not to mention warcry (which we expected, Intimidate being resisted is new).

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
atimes
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:33 am
#10

Break out the buffs man. . . break out the buffs.


Has anyone found a replacement for tat sunburns?


antares_Kauri
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:53 am
#11

Well, up until the chef revamp, I had quit tat sunburns altogether and was using 2 rhyscates and 1 breath of heaven. These were better than sunburns because they buffed str/quick/focus instead of str/stamina and decreasing focus like sunburns. After looking around the chef board, it looks like BoH is still craftable, but was not improved, so you get times up to 11 minutes with a sizeable filling, leaving you half full and unable to take another for 30 minutes. I don't see rhyscate anywhere, nor do I see a replacement that boosts str/quick/focus.

Bummer about intimidate.

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
ArkMindSpear
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:59 am
#12

Yeah, poor intimidate...


poor brawler....


Maybe if Berserk still did SOME form of what it used to.


That'd be nice....maybe just a nice 2-3X damage on auto attacks for say, 30 seconds or one minute....

and you can't do anything else but auto attack....


What is so wrong with that?


Well, it still has Lunge 2. Not exactly worth master anything, but at least it isn't nothing also...

oh well, once this wave of crap comes in I think i will drop M brawler and bea master TKA/Swordsman/Pikeman, or Fencer/Swordsman/Pikeman.....

I loath TKA with a passion, becouse of shear principles, but meditate is soooooo niiiiiiceeee......



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