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Thread: The (former) uses for Pikeman, and what it is now

ApakeFromTarquinas
Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:10 pm
#1

Pikeman was a master of crowd control, area KD, area attacks, we were the masters of our long weapons and could keep enemies at bay


that being said.......sweep2 is now useless, totally, u cant knockdown more then 1 thing at a time....(i got the message on 1 sweep2 that i was unable to use the knockdown thing)


there is now no crowd control in this game....a Master Pikeman is the same as someone with expert polearm in the brawler tree, except they hit alot faster


if you other Masters out there have never used your profession to the fullest, im sorry you didnt get to try before the KD nerf.....soloing multiple opponents at once.....being in a group and being able to hold off multiple enemies while the group kills them.....this is what Crowd Control is.....there is no "mez" in SWG, so AE KD = CC......i just think it really sucks how they took out basically over 1/2 our moves just by adding the KD timer.....with area KD gone.....all of our area attacks are worthless now, if we get more then 1 thing trying to kill us we are going to be dead anyways, so no use wasting ham on pretty area attacks


they should just change all our area dizzy/stuns to single so we they can charge us less HAM for them, they are useless now without area KD to go with them




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antares_Kauri
Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:48 pm
#2

We can still use sweep2 effectively, just not in constant rotation like in the past. Previously, I had been able to hold the aggro of a group of a few klikniks and a mamien or two on yavin at the same time, KD'ing them all (or most of them) repeatedly while the rest of the group blasted away. It was a rush.
Last night I went to the Tusken fort and was still able to KD a few raiders at the same time, trouble was that they got back up and all hit me and I could only hit continue to do area attacks and just eat the dmg from them all.
It is much more difficult, seemed like I was incapped much more often then pre-patch, but still doable with some altered strategies. I was a little worried because it seemed like I was much more brittle than before the patch.

Has anyone else seen the new tusken raider types? The avenger, guard, elite guard, death hunter, etc? nice.

antares



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Ashar
Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:58 pm
#3

Yeah, I've seen them. They seem to use posture change attacks occasionally, and one even KD'ed me. At the time it seemed like some perverse joke on the part of the Devs
Cyborg-Shoryuken
Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:35 pm
#4

Lol! So that's where our Knock Down moves went, to the Tuskens!



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X_SilverSurfer
Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:29 pm
#5

It is true that kd has been greatly nerfed, I can't explain why they have chosen this option, but maybe they are just trying to test the waters on this one... I feel like we are beta testing this game, only paying for it as well... Perhaps in a few months they will have the bugs worked out, the professions balanced fairly well, and there is peace on Earth... lol, I just want you guys to know that I bleed pikeman blood, and we are all feeling this wound...


Khrim




Khrim Charan
Gorath Pikeman Old Fart
"I was a Master when you were still in short pants... Okay, ok, Brawler's jacket, but no more!"
Ipree_Keamym
Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:01 pm
#6

All my pikeman blood is on the inside of my armor because it doesn't work 40% of the time which really hurts on 600point hits. Grats nightsisters.




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X_SilverSurfer
Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:30 am
#7

have you tried getting new one's made? it is costly but I have made bone (as a master artisan) and it was almost worth it! hehe. I went out and bought 3 new sets of various armor.. chitin with 50+%!! Woot!


Khrim...


Armor is protecting my rear, and my Stick is protecting my pole...




Khrim Charan
Gorath Pikeman Old Fart
"I was a Master when you were still in short pants... Okay, ok, Brawler's jacket, but no more!"
Ipree_Keamym
Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:09 am
#8

Just reinforcing the statement that armor isn't working over half the time now and for the ham costs and armor not to work is becoming even more pointless. First we can't have our defensive moves, now we've been forced to wear armor that doesn't work half the time, and we still get to hear about how tka is so thrilled they can do styles in armor now and have lower ham cost than us and do the same if not more damage? Um, I'm lost.



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X_SilverSurfer
Tue Sep 09, 2003 1:08 pm
#9

Really, I think mine has been working better. Maybe if you don't upgrade to new armor (post patch made) then the old one's are less affective, like trying to force people to buy new sets. If so that would be lame, but stranger things have happened...


Khrim...




Khrim Charan
Gorath Pikeman Old Fart
"I was a Master when you were still in short pants... Okay, ok, Brawler's jacket, but no more!"
Dragonviper
Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:47 pm
#10

I am so frustrated with Pikeman, the fact that it sucks, and that I hit 5 thoudans percent better with a Carbine and I have half the skill in it. And I do almost as much damage with my Carbine as with the LVA, and LV. SO I think I'll be trading in my Polearms for some better Carbines and more CH or Ranger skills.


Thanks for making Pikeman suck, Dev's good job.




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