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Thread: Whats Better PvE Master Swordman or Master Pikeman

realiity
Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:57 am
#1

I Just Want To know what profession to do for pve and see what one is more elite in pve.
JayD99
Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:58 am
#2

swordsman no doubt unless you have a nice high dmg pike even then swordsman is prolly still better lol





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MasterShacklefurd
Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:03 am
#3

I liked Swordsman alot more for high end PvE. Since a Pikeman can't kill an Elder, and it takes longer to take down krayts. Also Pike has lower toughness meaning your gonna get hit alot harder. But I'd say Pikeman for mid-low end PvE since it has the nice area attacks, and you can still use states on Mob's.




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TheStarWarsKid
Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:19 pm
#4

It depends on what you're fighting, but most of the time swordsman will beat pikeman.

Since swordsman can do blast damage, they can take out a lot of MOBs.

Now the DWB, Pikeman does well against battle droids, because of Electricity damage.



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Torael
Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:00 am
#5






TheStarWarsKid wrote:

It depends on what you're fighting, but most of the time swordsman will beat pikeman.

Since swordsman can do blast damage, they can take out a lot of MOBs.

Now the DWB, Pikeman does well against battle droids, because of Electricity damage.







Actually for DWB I prefer swordsman to tank, and then RIFLEMEN for damage dealing....but that's just from personal experiences with my guild when we crafted out mandolorian bracer.



PvE, though....well, heck, Pikeman almost all the time. I've not yet been outdamaged on Acklay by a swordsman in the geo caves. No swordsman could take a moderately bugged spawn and turn it into a HellSpawn the way a pikeman can (I find that simply spamming spinattack2 and sweep2 back and forth works wonders if you already have 8-10 spawning....)...the only advantage swordsmen have over me is the ability to take out Kwis much easier. On most other things, too...a lot of swordsmen have trouble keeping up with me if blast and kinetic resists are about even. Quite a few swordsmen aren't speedcapped (understandable because of how much it costs!), but even the ones who are don't necessarily have hammers as big as the pikes we can loot.




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annelid0
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:33 am
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Torael wrote:

Quite a few swordsmen aren't speedcapped (understandable because of how much it costs!), but even the ones who are don't necessarily have hammers as big as the pikes we can loot.

Quite a few pikemen aren't speedcapped either, and many don't have especially high damage pikes.

The average swordsman is better suited to PvE than the average pikeman. We do perfectly well, but they have the advantage. Headhit3 is an absolutely brutal attack, and area3 puts our area attacks to shame for pure damage.

Against most low to mid level NPCs I'd choose pikeman over swordsman any day because of our ability to area dizzy and KD. Against the high-end NPCs who are basically immune to states swordsmen are simply more effective damage dealers. Against creatures we're again relatively even on low to mid level stuff, but at the high end a swordsman is going to take most things down faster than a pikeman could.



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Bongzai
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:43 am
#7

aye just standard Pikeman Vs Swords, Swords will out damage you evertime


But saying that its only if your competing for loot from a drop that this should worry you.. tbh.... Pikes has more style



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traxtitan
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:47 am
#8

swords dont outdmg any pikeman i have been seeing


There are pikeman on my server who outdmg two jedi's in the geo cave (single handedly)

Good LVA's are about the same price as Good Sytches, and sytche max dmg is about 200-275 less then a good LVA's ... Not to mention if your also Master Fencer your basicaly speed caped

Pikeman i know are doing 5-8k dmg per attack on mobs and about 4k per on area attacks ...

not to mention Pikeman is now in the new pvp template



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Sawro
Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:19 am
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traxtitan wrote:
swords dont outdmg any pikeman i have been seeing


There are pikeman on my server who outdmg two jedi's in the geo cave (single handedly)

Good LVA's are about the same price as Good Sytches, and sytche max dmg is about 200-275 less then a good LVA's ... Not to mention if your also Master Fencer your basicaly speed caped

Pikeman i know are doing 5-8k dmg per attack on mobs and about 4k per on area attacks ...

not to mention Pikeman is now in the new pvp template




How does being Master Fencer cap Pikeman speed?





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film
Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:13 am
#10

if the creature/npc's resis to blast is the same as kinetic, a vetran pikeman wins hands down. not to brag but i went up against a imp guild of three including aswords and a jedi trying to kill acklay for the jedi's trials, i whipped out my 2nd highest lva @ 947dmg and ended up looting some fairly nice bones i guess what it comes down to is weather or not you have a higher dmg lva then they have power hammer.



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TaimMirror
Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:43 am
#11

That's the problem though, a speed capped swordsman vs a speed capped pikeman with normal weapons. We would not win. In order to outdamage other profs you need high end sticks. We're not really the best at anything at this point, save perhaps a group of mid level NPC's since our area attack and KD is in two seperate attacks. Hrm...I need a cookie now...or some food.

Oh and just so no one misinterprets me. I don't think that swordsman is better than pikeman. That's because pikeman gets a nice special mod at the master box. And that's the "cooler than any other profession +1000" mod. Of course, this is my utterly biased opinion.



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Naruk_The_Wookiee
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:15 am
#12






realiity wrote:

I Just Want To know what profession to do for pve and see what one is more elite in pve.






IMO Swordsmanoverall is the "better" profession...has higher toughness andpure mindattacks BUT pike is very nice! By now im leveling pike up to master cuz has nice area attacks and dots are fine for high-end-mobs...heading to master brawler/swords/pike/tka 4000 and novice med...left with 12 sp to spend into fs-skills....



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Dozier316
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:33 pm
#13

didnt feel like reading everythign so if this has been said ignore it.


pikeman takes alot more damage than swordsman and i mean ALOT.


2 reasons


sword toughness is better


block only stops 50% of damage and counterattack stops 100%


antares whos from my galaxy has a sticky at the top explaining damage taken and what not


for the damage issue i like swordsman better, that and most things have a low blast defense



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