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Thread: An idea for pikeman.

ArkMindSpear
Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:16 pm
#1

Well....i guess i'll start dissing out ideas....see if anyone bites.



Okay....leave pikeman as is....except....


A small boost to minimum damage....

and make these replacements.....


Spin Attack1 - AreaAction1- something like 2X multiplier and 2.5X speed Area attack that targets action


Spin Attack1 - AreaAction2- Something like 3X multiplier and 3.5X speed Area Attack that targets action+ stun+ KD.



AreaAttack1- AreaHealth1- something like 3X multilier and 3.5 X speed Area attck targes health


AreaAttack2- AreaHealth2- something like 4X multiplier and 4.5X speed. Area attack targets health



Sweep1- AreaMind1- Something like 1.5X multiplier 2X speed. Area attck targets mind


Sweep2- Area Mind2- Something like 2.5X multiplier 3X speed. Area attck targets mind +blin+dizzy





or we could be like TKAs and have one of each


for us to not be over powered....we can't do a ton of damage...and the mind hit NEEDs to be lower in damage than the others.


This will give us our place as support for area fighting....

we won't do as much damage as other proffesion....but we will be more focused......


We can support anyperson we are fighting with this way....


just an idea....think about it....or somthing like it...thanks



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ArkMindSpear
Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:10 am
#2

so no then?

Bad idea... huh?



Well some one come up with something so we can all figure out what we want, then make those devs do it.



My vision for TKAs....
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=68040
ArkMindSpear
Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:18 am
#3

Antares, would you like to re-submit your idea. About pikeman being differnt depending wether they were weilding a staff or a pike. I dont' remeber all the aspects of your idea. Hopefully you still do.

I remeber the jist... Staffs = defensive, Pikes = Offensive

But there was more....



My vision for TKAs....
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=68040
Trimble
Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:51 am
#4

Our problem as pikemen is we don't know our role.


We are told that we are area or crowd control. Well then, make us crowd control. We should have an area bleed. We should have an area action hit.


Our damages are fine. I can crack an Enraged Rancor for 2500 in damage with a stock LVA. We don't need a change there.


We should have a higher melee defense, and please fix block to work like counterattack or dodge. It is only bloody fair.


Just please, let us know our role in combat.





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ScDarkKnight
Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:03 am
#5

well we discussed about it IG .. and yeah I agree with ya ... for now ... but I'd like to see the HAM revamp before asking something like this =P


About the AoE bleed ... bleed currently SUCKS

My Idea to revamp Bleed ... is that Bleed no longer works like a Dot, but stop the player regeneration of the targeted pool, that would be a nice idea to counter Secondary stats Buffs. Maybe decreasing the strength of the stimpacks too


So you use your action bleed on the guys and his action line stop increasing ... then you can spam LegHit III ... if he tries to take a Stim before healing the bleed well it heals 50% or something ...


My though ...



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ArkMindSpear
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:23 am
#6





Our problem as pikemen is we don't know our role.


I think most pikeman pretty much agre on area attacks/tanking as our role....weather we do it or not, we agree that's what it should be....mostly.


We are told that we are area or crowd control. Well then, make us crowd control. We should have an area bleed. We should have an area action hit.


Isn't taht what i said? And bleeds suck. we know that now. And area attacks to all three pools would solidify our role as area attckers.


Our damages are fine. I can crack an Enraged Rancor for 2500 in damage with a stock LVA. We don't need a change there.


I cna't seem to stress this enuff becouse people don't seem to get it.You CAN hit an enraged rancor for 2500 but you are more likely to hit for about 1200.
And we don't need more damage...this would just alow us to focus it in our role as an area tank.

We don't need more maximum damage man, we need more minimum damage...so we will hit for 2500 more often...
Instead of 140-500 it should be like 300-500 or more.


We should have a higher melee defense, and please fix block to work like counterattack or dodge. It is only bloody fair.


Or we would die while trying to fight multiple creatures. It's common sense.


Just please, let us know our role in combat.


We are going to have to tell THEM.








My vision for TKAs....
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=68040
ChFry
Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:45 pm
#7






ArkMindSpear wrote:





Our problem as pikemen is we don't know our role.


I think most pikeman pretty much agre on area attacks/tanking as our role....weather we do it or not, we agree that's what it should be....mostly.


We are told that we are area or crowd control. Well then, make us crowd control. We should have an area bleed. We should have an area action hit.


Isn't taht what i said? And bleeds suck. we know that now. And area attacks to all three pools would solidify our role as area attckers.


Our damages are fine. I can crack an Enraged Rancor for 2500 in damage with a stock LVA. We don't need a change there.


I cna't seem to stress this enuff becouse people don't seem to get it.You CAN hit an enraged rancor for 2500 but you are more likely to hit for about 1200.
And we don't need more damage...this would just alow us to focus it in our role as an area tank.

We don't need more maximum damage man, we need more minimum damage...so we will hit for 2500 more often...
Instead of 140-500 it should be like 300-500 or more.


We should have a higher melee defense, and please fix block to work like counterattack or dodge. It is only bloody fair.


Or we would die while trying to fight multiple creatures. It's common sense.


Just please, let us know our role in combat.


We are going to have to tell THEM.












/agree



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