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Thread: Gunman: Request for info on block

Psykeman420-HS
Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:15 pm
#1

at least mobs/npcs also take dmg when blocking, otherwise it would be even more screwed up



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ArkMindSpear
Tue Dec 09, 2003 6:45 pm
#2

i just read in the fencer forums about how dodage counterattack and block stack.....


they don't


I was gonna be a tka fencer pikeman...still am i suppose.... :'( ....but there is very little point now. I was gonan be the mad evader, but now i will be the mad....melee who can do nothing more than anyone who specializes in any of the classes....i am bumed now.




My vision for TKAs....
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=68040
antares_Kauri
Tue Dec 09, 2003 8:16 pm
#3

dodge/counter/block don't stack, but melee and ranged defenses do. Believe me, getting the defensive trees of all the melee classes, master brawler and your choice of master elite is a truly awesome template. I've seen it in action, almost unstoppable. (Especially if TKA is the primary elite, but what's the fun in that, right?)



antares


master pikeman




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Braglor
Tue Dec 09, 2003 8:29 pm
#4






antares_Kauri wrote:

Believe me, getting the defensive trees of all the melee classes, master brawler and your choice of master elite is a truly awesome template.



he speaks the truth, the true power of melee is awesome
antares_Kauri
Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:03 am
#5

Gunman, since you have the access to the correspondent's forum and potentially can get an answer more easily from those who know (i.e. Keldarin) or even discussion with other correspondents, could you please try to find out:

(1) Just what are the intended differences between block/dodge/counterattack?
(2) Are we supposed to be taking damage when we block?

If you could, thanks.

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
Gunman21
Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:26 am
#6

Sure thing




Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors

Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

antares_Kauri
Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:56 am
#7

Thanks.

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
Fulmen
Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:20 am
#8

Nothing yet huh?


Figures they just dont care....

ArkMindSpear
Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:30 am
#9

as a master pikeman i would have +tons of stacked bonuses, at least i think. No telling what is hidden in the stats.


i would be packing...


+166 M.Def.


+138 R.Def.


+105 Dodge, +106 Def. Acuity, and +115 Block. My god if that stacked and i used CoB.......roxzors.


lotsa other stuff...most important for PvP would likely be....


+85 Combat Equallibrum(get up really fast from a KD.


+110 Def. vs P.Change(down)


and +90 Def. Vs. KD...



Also i hardly see the benefit from using swordsman as a way to boost your melee and ranged def. If memory serves they get like 12. I would rather be the master of three others, than dabble in Swordsman for it's defensive perpouses.


MAYBE if swordsman was the "key" class and i dabbled in all the others, but from the TKA tree i doubt i would be able to get all of meditate AND the defensive trees. And master meditate is very nice thing to have if there is no room in your template for medic skills.


Last i left my character he had maybe +110 melee def. and about +90 something ranged. I was missed ALOT. Except by tka....becouse they have like +200 accuracy.But that was as a pikeman, if i was playing as a TKA i would be like wow with the defense and the toughness and i would be the all accurate one. But TKA is not my nature. I am a creature of the pike. But i will steal tka abilities. Harness them. Be one with the tka skills.....then smash a stick on their puny heads! BAH HAH HAH.....


also...tka is the easiest thing i have ever tried to get exp for. Aside from unarmed exp, wich can be cheesed out(bases and bleeding). Man, low level pikeman is just a pain. I have to choose between a wapon with positive accuracy(lance) that deals like 30-250 damage at like 6.0 speed. and i miss like half the time becouse i am low level. So i miss 1/2 the time, do it very slowly, and can do from 90(bleck)-900(not too shabby, but fence can do this concistantly)thats with a special attack. Or the LVA....where i simply cut out all the fuss and just miss 13 times and then kill what ever i swing at in one hit on the 14th hit, on auto attack.


I forgot how unreliable your weapons are for low pikeman/polearm.You really have to go into each fight with your fingers crossed. T his i think needs to be delt with.


I was pacified by master pikeman and blinded by the +150 accuracy. I for got how tough it is to get where i got and why it took me so fricking long.




My vision for TKAs....
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=68040
Gunman21
Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:16 pm
#10

Just thought I'd update this....

I asked Antares, but didn't get an answer, the thread was semi-hijacked...they've got a lot going with the top 5 so I'm not sure if we'll be able to get these answered.




Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors

Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

antares_Kauri
Mon Dec 15, 2003 3:21 pm
#11

Hmmm, well, you would think it would be a simple answer - someone must know that off the top of their heads. Oh well, maybe sometime soon. I guess until then we'll have to settle for thinking it's "working as intended."

Thanks for asking.

antares
master pikeman



|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
ShogaOLayth
Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:29 am
#12

I imagine it is a minor problem in their eyes, but I would really like some info on it, even if it is just "working as intended". I would really like an answer like : "it is working as intended, for right now block lowers damage by xx%, in the future it may be changed" Thanks for trying for us.



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Braglor
Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:23 pm
#13








antares_Kauri wrote:



someone must know that off the top of their heads.





probably the person who refferd to our profession as Polearm instead of Pikeman
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