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Thread: Ladies and Gentlemen, This is the purposed Fencer change, Please post YOUR thoughts, as a non-fe
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PoppaBear
Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:04 am
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Hello, Pikemen and Pikewomen! Believe me when I say that Zion doesn't speak for us all, and his words are HIS OPINION. Personally, I think the Fencer profession is just fine the way it is, but I do agree we need new weapons for us.
So please, don't take his post as him speaking for the entire Fencer community, but I'm also glad ya'll took the time to here him out and make comments on what you read. Also, I just started a Pikeman on Gorath, and I'm having as much fun with that as I am with Fencer. Take care!
PoppaBear
Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:05 am
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Hello, Pikemen and Pikewomen! Believe me when I say that Zion doesn't speak for us all, and his words are HIS OPINION. Personally, I think the Fencer profession is just fine the way it is, but I do agree we need new weapons for us.
So please, don't take his post as him speaking for the entire Fencer community, but I'm also glad ya'll took the time to here him out and make comments on what you read. Also, I just started a Pikeman on Gorath, and I'm having as much fun with that as I am with Fencer. Take care!
BoyOfLight
Fri Apr 23, 2004 11:57 am
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I'm just saying, give the fencers a couple more (maybe 2 more) AP1weaponsandone AP2 weapon....at the same time leaving the damage alone......while the devs are at it, increase the speed of the AP2 weapons to something like 5.0and throw another damage type in there......TKA's should get another damage type also with AP1. THis wouldn't unbalance anything, but will improve fencers damage and range of attacks
Umm by giving Fencer's an Ap2 weapon you are basically sticking the middle finger up to swordsmen who are right now the only Ap2 melee class. The only other melee class that should get an Ap2 weapon is pikeman ( this is coming from a holo-pike, not someone who is gunna be here for more then the next 2 1/2 days ).
With a powerhammer as a swordsmen i can weild a 5.4speed powerhammer at an extremly fast rate ( at master ), even giving a "new fencer weapon" this ability they would still swing much faster because their specials are much faster
Fencer's already have 2 damage types, one of which is insanly effective in pvp because of the very low stun resistance of most armours.
Tka are getting a new damage type ( which i think is ap1 ) but imo ( from a TKM ) the weapon itself is way to powerful and should be weaker then a vk, and be only used to fight against 100% kinetic mobs ( which was the reason tka were needing a new weapon )
I agree with however said that Zion basically wants to have all the benifits of the other melee professions without any drawbacks..this is ridicilious
Daros
Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:14 pm
#4
BoyOfLight wrote:
Umm by giving Fencer's an Ap2 weapon you are basically sticking the middle finger up to swordsmen who are right now the only Ap2 melee class. The only other melee class that should get an Ap2 weapon is pikeman ( this is coming from a holo-pike, not someone who is gunna be here for more then the next 2 1/2 days ).
Our Long Vibro Axe is AP2, just FYI...
I'm one of those who believe Swordsmen should get an AP3, and we stick with AP2 *ducks*. Just makes sense to me, but I'm weird that way. 
BoyOfLight
Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:02 pm
#5
Daros wrote:
BoyOfLight wrote:
Umm by giving Fencer's an Ap2 weapon you are basically sticking the middle finger up to swordsmen who are right now the only Ap2 melee class. The only other melee class that should get an Ap2 weapon is pikeman ( this is coming from a holo-pike, not someone who is gunna be here for more then the next 2 1/2 days ).
Our Long Vibro Axe is AP1, just FYI...
I'm one of those who believe Swordsmen should get an AP3, and we stick with AP2 *ducks*. Just makes sense to me, but I'm weird that way.
Oh wow i thought all pikes were ap2,....Well i dont think Swords should get an Ap3 actually and to be honest thats my favorite proffession of all time ( one of the first MHS ).....If u know how to play a swordsmen and make use of their specials and such and use the right weapons and the right combo's u can take anything outfast...Heck in old holo times i could beat out groups of 20 people for loot rights as it was.....an Ap3 weapon would be like saying ,,1,, to any heavy mob and all other melee proffessions
Message Edited by BoyOfLight on 04-24-2004 12:02 AM
Daros
Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:47 pm
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BoyOfLight wrote:
Oh wow i thought all pikes were ap2,....Well i dont think Swords should get an Ap3 actually and to be honest thats my favorite proffession of all time ( one of the first MHS ).....If u know how to play a swordsmen and make use of their specials and such and use the right weapons and the right combo's u can take anything outfast...Heck in old holo times i could beat out groups of 20 people for loot rights as it was.....an Ap3 weapon would be like saying ,,1,, to any heavy mob and all other melee proffessions
Message Edited by BoyOfLight on 04-24-2004 12:02 AM
Nah, they're all AP0, except the VL at AP1 and the LVA at AP2 (the Lance is AP0, right? I can never remember) NSEL is AP1, as well, like it matters.
Reason I say Swordsmen should get an AP3 is because they really are the damage profession, at this point, and that is the direction things seem to keep heading. Just as Rifleman is the ranged heavy damage profession, and gets AP3, so, I think, should Swordsmen. Again, just my opinion...
AndrewGoentzel
Sat Apr 24, 2004 9:41 am
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Daros i disagree with giving Heavy Swordsman an AP3 weapon, and citing rifleman for their heavy weapon is ridiculous. The T21 isn't uber until master when you get adv. strafeshot. If any profession should get and AP3 weapon it should be pikeman. Why? Because their weapons have damage stats similar to rifleman and have a higher speed. Giving Hvy. Swords an AP3 weapon would make it the End-All melee profession in the game, especially if the Powerhammer was AP3, with some high level mobs having low blast resist. This is coming from someone who was a Hvy. Swordsman and dropped it due the insane amount of damage that can be done. Dont mean to flame you Daros, but seriously AP3 on Hvy. Swords, just stop trying to convince the devs that you need it...cuz your prof doesnt. But thats my opinion i could be wrong.
Mystic_Squirrel
Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:28 pm
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Um... How about Fencers traded away their damage for the ability to tank anything in the game. As just a Master Fencer I could tank Krayts, NS elders (2 at a time), Super Battle Droids and pretty much anything you could find. With that insane ability to tank and high dmg Fencers would be incredibly overpowered in PvE.
Fencer does NOT need changes. You have Aklay bones now that make huge differences to your weapons, and while I doubt you will ever have a better AP1 weapon, its a small price to pay for massive defenses and Dodge out the wazoo.
Daros
Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:31 pm
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AndrewGoentzel wrote:
Daros i disagree with giving Heavy Swordsman an AP3 weapon, and citing rifleman for their heavy weapon is ridiculous. The T21 isn't uber until master when you get adv. strafeshot. If any profession should get and AP3 weapon it should be pikeman. Why? Because their weapons have damage stats similar to rifleman and have a higher speed. Giving Hvy. Swords an AP3 weapon would make it the End-All melee profession in the game, especially if the Powerhammer was AP3, with some high level mobs having low blast resist. This is coming from someone who was a Hvy. Swordsman and dropped it due the insane amount of damage that can be done. Dont mean to flame you Daros, but seriously AP3 on Hvy. Swords, just stop trying to convince the devs that you need it...cuz your prof doesnt. But thats my opinion i could be wrong.
Yea, you meant to flame me... admit it.
I did not say that the Power Hammer should be AP3, I said that Swordsmen should get an AP3 weapon... big difference there.
My turn to flame, yippie!
I'm not a swordsman, **edit**. Read my sig. Thank you very much.
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