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Thread: I will uncover the mysteries of the Pikeman

Hobgrob
Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:21 am
#1

I have tried every type of weapon there is. And I can honestly say that when mastering brawler that pikes were the weakest of any weapons I tried, and even made the carbine look good.


But there must be a reason... A reason why it's so inaccuracy, so slow, so weak, and costs so MUCH HAM. This has been bothering me for a long time. This was the same case with carbineer and I chose to master it to see if it truly was that bad. Yeah I dropped it when I was satisfied it was an okay class, not as bad as people made it out to be. Yesterday I dropped master TKA and master pistoleer. (keeping the defense trees and meditation tree), remastered brawler and got to 2003 pikeman.


I'm completely defense stacked, and I managed to clean out the squill cave in 30 min by mobbing them all around me and using spin attack. Not bad... dps seemed kinda lower than when I was novice pistoleer using pointblankarea1... but I'll continue until I master and wont drop it until I have found the secret.


And I don't believe any of you pikeman who say there is no secret. You probably found it already and don't wanna share it with the rest of the galaxy because you don't want them crying nerf.



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UWSkeletor
Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:40 am
#2






Hobgrob wrote:

I have tried every type of weapon there is. And I can honestly say that when mastering brawler that pikes were the weakest of any weapons I tried, and even made the carbine look good.


But there must be a reason... A reason why it's so inaccuracy, so slow, so weak, and costs so MUCH HAM. This has been bothering me for a long time. This was the same case with carbineer and I chose to master it to see if it truly was that bad. Yeah I dropped it when I was satisfied it was an okay class, not as bad as people made it out to be. Yesterday I dropped master TKA and master pistoleer. (keeping the defense trees and meditation tree), remastered brawler and got to 2003 pikeman.


I'm completely defense stacked, and I managed to clean out the squill cave in 30 min by mobbing them all around me and using spin attack. Not bad... dps seemed kinda lower than when I was novice pistoleer using pointblankarea1... but I'll continue until I master and wont drop it until I have found the secret.


And I don't believe any of you pikeman who say there is no secret. You probably found it already and don't wanna share it with the rest of the galaxy because you don't want them crying nerf.






I think the only secret you'll find, and it's not much of a secret, is that we can get fairly decent looted polearms. That's pretty much how you can be competitive. But good luck to you.



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Lihpson
Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:41 pm
#3

The secret of pikeman is not unlocked at master, but actually well beyond master. Just yesterday I reached +19 polearm speed in attachments. Now my slowest attacks with my slowest weapons are at the speed cap! Ripping down groups of anything is so easy, the more the better! I took down 5 NS stalkers with easy, probably in under 2 minutes.


BTW- those attachments costed me a total of about 1.3 mil, and Im still working on accuracy attachments or PvP.





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StormTrooper60666
Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:22 pm
#4

Thats nice but were still nerfed and overlooked

But Your saying were so leet with mods! We shouldnt have to be.... OTher classes arnt and if they put on attachments than were in the same old posistion




No Accuarcy

No Damage

No Speed

A little bit of spin(witch swordsman has better spin attacks and dmg anyways)


Only thing we do have are some NS lances and pray for the fight to last for them to die of the bleed or diesease on the lance!


Other than that we do look cool....*sigh* I geuss the devs feal thats enough >:C



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SpeCiaL_Ed_
Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:31 pm
#5

The way a pikeman can compete is by fighting for his weapons. Being a TKM/Master Pikeman I haven't bought a weapon in 3 months. In those 3 months my friends andI have looted more poison, fire, and high damage lancesthan I can remember.


If pikeman gets fixed, I feel sorry for everyone else because the things I can do now is just plain scary.



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OutbackWookiee
Sat May 01, 2004 1:11 am
#6


Okay, I'm going against the pikeman code (I hope I don't get shunned). I'm going to reveal the secrets of our profession right here.









Wait for it .....









Wait for it ...









None of us are really pikemen. We just post this gibberish in the hopes of attracting new people to the prof so we can laugh at them when they post their 'hey why do I miss so much' and 'I got killed by durnis' threads. Looks like we've got one more for the sucker bin ... fool!!!





LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


NeoCarnage
Sun May 02, 2004 2:55 am
#7

oh man that is the funniest thing ive ever seen
Liwiwo
Sun May 02, 2004 5:09 am
#8

get tapes to cap your speed, the cap is 90, and then youll be doing 1 sec hits with sped 6 weapons, and as said earlier, using looted pikes u can bring fencers tkas and 2handed ppl down with ease if your fighting with armor, while i mainly fight unarmed in duels with no armor, if they fix the range modifiers on weapons, pikemen will be a very hard kicking class, and imo pike is pretty much better than every of the other classes, the exception might be 2handed but we are pretty much on par with thoose if you got a good pike and a few speed tapes



Liwiwo
The1337Sniper
Sun May 02, 2004 7:26 pm
#9

Problem is, it was said that crafted weapons would be better / more imporant than looted weapons. Teras Kasi's, Fencers, and Swordsmen dont need to hunt Nightsisters forever to be good in PVP, they can get thier weapons made and go at it, yet for us to be a substantial class in pvp, we have to LOOT a good weapon. Does that sound right?



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Arhagellos
Mon May 03, 2004 2:41 am
#10






Legwand wrote:


Okay, I'm going against the pikeman code (I hope I don't get shunned). I'm going to reveal the secrets of our profession right here. *snip because of the many enters*None of us are really pikemen. We just post this gibberish in the hopes of attracting new people to the prof so we can laugh at them when they post their 'hey why do I miss so much' and 'I got killed by durnis' threads. Looks like we've got one more for the sucker bin ... fool!!!








Bad bad Zoot, bad evil wicked Zoot. I must punish you now with a spanking.





Nerelith Vel'Et'Aril
Master Pikeman
Sentinel of Horus

Envoy3113
Mon May 03, 2004 6:16 am
#11

*pulls up to thread in blacked out Chevy Astro van*


*jumps out, tosses potato sack over Legwands head and herds him into the idling van*


*puts on Will Smith glasses*


Ok, everyone just look into the light...



There comes a time in every mans life when 86 years is just too damn long...
OutbackWookiee
Mon May 03, 2004 3:35 pm
#12






Envoy3113 wrote:

*pulls up to thread in blacked out Chevy Astro van*


*jumps out, tosses potato sack over Legwands head and herds him into the idling van*


*puts on Will Smith glasses*


Ok, everyone just look into the light...






Hey, what the ... whats going on her.......*muffled silence*



LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


Envoy3113
Tue May 04, 2004 9:41 am
#13

*pulls bag off Legwands head*



*edit* you're not OJ Simpson...



*opens door, kicks Legwand out*





...No, but seriously...You answered your own mystery. Which is mysterious in and of itself. The answer you seek, you have answered, yet you still seek. You are defensively stacked.



Thas all folks. That doesn't change the fact that a stand alone pikeman is desperately underclassed in just about all arenas. Nor does it change the fact that if you do have a great spread of combat ability, the question will be posed..."Why pull my pike out at all?"...Unless that is you have come across, either through countless hours of spawn camping or through spending millions of credits, a polearm that is exceptional enough to stand apart from the scores of crafted weapons easily accessable to the other combat aspects of all that is you.



Even then...am I a pikeman...or a combat medic with a stick?





There comes a time in every mans life when 86 years is just too damn long...
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