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Evil_Dead_Ash

Sat May 08, 2004 2:29 pm

You haven't seen the most famous of all Scylla Pikeman, Dashl Connery? He is everywhere, he is the original Deacon of Rancor Smiting, for the Church of Alvis. Why, he even holds weekly hunts, for others to get xp, since he maxed xp oh so long ago.

Ok, anyway, I love Master Pikeman, first holo, and I am not doing anymore holo's. I do great in PvE, especially rancors, which are great for xp. I dropped all of CH, and picked up 1/0/4/4 Pistoleer, and 4/0/0/4 TKA, just in case for those rare PvP occasions, and for when I solo. Buffs and Ubese, you can handle anything, kimos are not a problem, even krayts are great fun, I tank, let the others kill. 26k HAM Force Hunters? You can solo them as well. Pikeman is great, deals different damages with the different lances. Pistoleer and TKA help with the defenses, dodge, and meditation, and can use those attacks, as well as be ranged if needed.

Only thing I need to be complete is the NS Energy Lance.

Send me a tell or email in game, if you have any questions.

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Shayanf

Sat May 08, 2004 2:51 pm

#2

yea it duz

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ScDarkKnight

Sat May 08, 2004 4:06 pm

#3

Vevy wrote:

I can only make 200 max dam vks, but I can make 400 max dam vibrolances and long axes that are slightly faster then double the vks speed...and they look so much cooler swinging that telephone pole around at everything.

Don't forget that you have +255 Unarmed damage that stack with your VK Damage ...

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Vevy

Sat May 08, 2004 4:39 pm

#4

ScDarkKnight wrote:

Vevy wrote:

I can only make 200 max dam vks, but I can make 400 max dam vibrolances and long axes that are slightly faster then double the vks speed...and they look so much cooler swinging that telephone pole around at everything.

Don't forget that you have +255 Unarmed damage that stack with your VK Damage ...

I'm not a TKM just yet...but I couldn't get a straight answer on that either...yeah I suppose all that added damage would make for a killer set of vks huh? Especially considering I've been using the speed sliced ones down at 1.4.

I did wonder how the polearm speed would change my perception of it too since the test LVA I made was up in the 4 speed range.

I think if I had to cite a single biggest reason I'm considering switching it would be the range. since I've always been a carbineer TKA was the first melee class I've ever used and at only 5m range is a huge hindrance.

The LVA I made only shows 7m on the max range so I assumed that was it...til I heard someone say 20m...is that true?

Vevy
Master Armorsmith / Master Weaponsmith

NoahD2000

Sat May 08, 2004 4:53 pm

#5

i seem to hit stuff like 15m away or so..

if i was u i would get pikeman for sure, it's gotta be the funnest melee prof i've played, and i've played every melee prof

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ScDarkKnight

Sat May 08, 2004 5:00 pm

#6

Special's range are the same for Pikeman and TKM .. everything around 15m exept for Lunge II (Master Brawler)which is 20m for both TKM and Pikeman .. only our Auto attack has more range .. 7m compared to 5m

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antares_Kauri

Sat May 08, 2004 5:01 pm

#7

Pikeman is mostly superior overall to TKA in strictly PvE.

The range is the same or a little worse than TKA in some cases. This makes no sense, we all know. There is no 14m swordsman-specific special and no 20m pikeman-specific special. Lunge is 15m for all melee and Lunge2 at master brawler is 20m for all melee.

The Vibro Lance is only superior to the VK in situations where the electricity resists are low and the kinetic resists high, since it is just AP1. The LVA is where the difference comes in, with the AP2. Against Medium armored and Heavy armored mobs, the LVA will start to win out in terms of damage. Speed will always be slower than TKAs, but with +25 in speed tapes, that goes away and PvE dps is basically meaningless anyway.

Pikemen with the LVA can reach higher maximum damage strikes than a TKA can in PvE, especially with some looted polearms.

You will need to stack TKA or fencer defenses to go with pikeman, as the difference in defenses is extreme. If you keep 4004 in TKA, you'll be much better off. Grab some fencer, pistoleer or rifleman defenses (your choice) and some good armor and you'll be set. Heavy swordsmen beat pikemen in terms of PvE, they are probably the best, both in damage type resists and maximum hits, but we all know which is cooler.

antares

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antares

master pikeman

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Vevy

Sat May 08, 2004 6:13 pm

#8

The reason I ask about the range is because I've noticed with my vk, if I run up to a small mob lair, like quenkers for example, I just fire off my spinattack macro that does all the clicking for me and I just keep the lair targetted and no matter how many quenkers spawn, they all get swooped effortlessly.

...now that same attack against a bol lair or piket lair, the added mobs seem to be able to hit me yet out of range of my spin attack. I've already had 7-8 of em on me at once and I'm actually only damaging 2-3 while the other 5-6 are still able to hit me.

I assumed this was a product of their size since bigger monsters might have to stand further away then smaller ones. This is actually really annoying for me so I got excited when I heard the 20m polearm attack. Do pikeman have this same problem against bigger targets? ...or does the 7m range get around that anyway? Also is lunge attack an AoE attack?

Vevy
Master Armorsmith / Master Weaponsmith

antares_Kauri

Sat May 08, 2004 6:25 pm

#9

Lunge is not AoE, and the problem you're describing sounds exactly like a problem that occurs because of the larger creatures' size, their hittable center is farther away. All melee specials have an increased distance to account for this and some lag. I don't think you'll be noticing much of a difference in range if you take up pikeman, swordsman, fencer or TKA.

There is no 20m pikeman attack. Lunge2 is attainable at Master Brawler and there is a lunge2 for every melee type.

antares

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|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
|combatUpgrade::alpha :: JTL::beta :: RotW::beta :: ToOW::beta|
SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"

Vevy

Sun May 09, 2004 12:24 am

#10

How does this prof stack up in PvE?

I don't ever bother with PvP cause I've always thought it was too unbalanced to be worth getting into, so that's of little concern.

However I've recently given up Master Carbineer and decided to go TKM cause I'm tired of busting my hump trying to solo dungeons with a carbine, only to have a TKM run in, pull 50 things and nuke em all without healing...rofl

...so if you can't beat em, join em.

However TKA even lacks a few things I miss, like decent range, a cool looking weapon, to name 2. I mean it's mad fun running in with buffs and brandy and power boost and just spinattacking everything...but it still lacks that bit of finesse I think to make it truly fun.

I see almost NO master pikemen running around, which reading through this thread I can understand why...but how does the prof actually stack up to TKA in PvE? Most comparisons are always made in relation to PvP and that doesn't apply for me.

I love TKA, but the range sucks when a mob can take 2 steps and stop and you can't hit em. I've heard swordsman have a 14m range and pikemen a 20m range with their spin attacks, is this true?

I can only make 200 max dam vks, but I can make 400 max dam vibrolances and long axes that are slightly faster then double the vks speed...and they look so much cooler swinging that telephone pole around at everything.

I'm looking for some insight from players who have actually done both pikeman and TKA, or even better someone who's stacking the two for a strong PvE template.

...no idea what the normal tone is here in the pikeman thread, but here's a chance to sell someone on your prof who's sitting on the fence. I can already run into theforce huntercaves with 5 or sobottom TKA skills and no melee mitigation and tank a couple mobs with a vk no problem, can that still be done with pikeman or am I gonna regret not going TKM?

Vevy
Master Armorsmith / Master Weaponsmith

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