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Thread: Pikeman and ???
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duabeckett
Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:02 am
#1
Im currently a master pistoleer, master smugglar and commando 4400... but am planning on going melee, preferably a template built around pikeman. Ive been reading through the forums for swordsman, pikeman and tkm but am struggling to decide which way to turn. The only thing i have decided is to take doc 4xxx along with master pikeman!
Would i be able to use a pikemans area attackwhile wielding atwo handed sword? Or can COB work while wielding a pike? Does a swordsman do much more damage that a pikeman because i know TKM doesnt really do any damage but is awesome for defences...
These are all things im curious about but was hoping all you pikeman could tell me what is the best way to go to compliment Pikeman!
Ssedi
Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:21 am
#2
Heres your options, since you want Doc 4000 you can master one other brawler prof.
Mpike/Msword/Doc 4000 - You can use pike specials with sword's weapons and visa versa, Swords have some very high damage moves, and right now Advanced armor break is killer on anyone.
Mpike/TKM/Doc 4000 - With improved force of will, COB(+500 to both defense's), high defense, and using pike's to deal damage, you can be a very nice tank. Not having to wear armor is a big plus, and with all the state's pike can do, you can take has low has 30 damage per hit from a cl 82. Personally I like this one better.
Mpike/Msword/Doc 4000 - You can use pike specials with sword's weapons and visa versa, Swords have some very high damage moves, and right now Advanced armor break is killer on anyone.
Mpike/TKM/Doc 4000 - With improved force of will, COB(+500 to both defense's), high defense, and using pike's to deal damage, you can be a very nice tank. Not having to wear armor is a big plus, and with all the state's pike can do, you can take has low has 30 damage per hit from a cl 82. Personally I like this one better.
Gunman21
Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:00 am
#3
My temp is Pike/Swords/4000 doc.
The only major problem I have with the template is not having improved CoB. Taking a 900 dmg VL and adding a speed powerup should give between 600-700 modified dps, which is good. Using a hammer you should getbetween 700-800 dps depending on how good the hammer is.
LinaraAdun
Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:27 am
#4
Agreed except that to me force of will seems to be useless. Every time I've used it, I just ended up being incapacitated for longer than I was originally. Add to that it's extremely long reuse and it doesn't even seem worth making a hotkey for.
Ssedi wrote:
Mpike/TKM/Doc 4000 - With improved force of will, COB(+500 to both defense's), high defense, and using pike's to deal damage, you can be a very nice tank. Not having to wear armor is a big plus, and with all the state's pike can do, you can take has low has 30 damage per hit from a cl 82. Personally I like this one better.
Ssedi
Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:02 pm
#5
I'm aucatlly pretty sure I meant something other then Force of Will (it's bugged). But I no longer know what I meant.
/absentminded
Edit, that's right. I forgot power boost (+500 to health)
/absentminded
Edit, that's right. I forgot power boost (+500 to health)
Message Edited by Ssedi on 07-05-2005 04:04 PM
AdaTerCogar
Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:22 pm
#6
If your going Master Pike/ Doc 4xxx, I would recomend this template...
Master Pike
Master Swordsman
Doc 4/0/0/0
I love my ALL melee template, but if I was going to do anything other than ALL melee it would be that template.
To answer your questions about the usage of weapons etc... Using a Pike I use most of my Sword skills, and with a sword i still use a few of my pike skills.... Works GREAT! Advanced Armour break, PowerMove, Piercing shot, Advanced Crit are my favorite moves! Action cost is madning thou!! but I use all my fencer/swords/pikes/unarmed weapons with these main 4 moves, and works GREAT! Pike and Swords do bout the same damage with the same skills btw... if you have a good pike and good hammer or sword!
musicguy
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:21 am
#7
with my experiences with CoB, it actually reduces a ton of damage from being taken. for example, something that normally hits for 120 damage with no modifiers in place will hit for around 60-70 damage with improved CoB in place. Now, the only thing u have to do is put in a good macro so that u don't have to press a button to keep that CoB going continuously.
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