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Thread: Pike Rifle stack!
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NiallMcCormack
Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:34 pm
#1
Evening fellers, i was advised by a few people to take up parts of rifles man to stack the block with pikeman. However, someone told me today that this has been nerfed and wont work... well does it or doesnt it work?
I personally thought that as long as a skill was a general skill(ie. speed rather than polearm speed) it would be stacked into all professions. If this has been nerfed does it mean that taking up the defensive part of the TKA or fencer trees wont complement my pikeman defense?
Niall.
Gunman21
Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:54 pm
#2
Block only stacks to +125, we are given +115, so it won't help much.
NiallMcCormack
Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:21 pm
#3
well shat.
Looks like im stuck with the current **edit** polearm defense. The only way im gonna be effective in pvp is if i drop pikeman. What about the second part of my question? Will mods such as dodge +15 melee defense from TKA contribute to my pikeman defenses?
Peudas
Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:38 pm
#4
Dodge will only work if you're using a one-hand sword (fencer) or a pistol.
GabrielsSword
Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:01 pm
#5
Does anyone actually have a fun Pikeman/Rifleman template going and would you share how its working out?
Mavarus
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:53 am
#6
Im master pikeman/master rifleman/swordsman 0444 and love it, very deadly. 
PadreBook
Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:44 pm
#7
Gunman21 wrote:
Block only stacks to +125, we are given +115, so it won't help much.
What Gunman fails to mention is that Block allows half damage when it's SUCCESSFUL unlike Dodge or Counterattack so even at +125 that's the equivalent of only +63 Dodge/Counterattack (actually worse than that but that would take more explaining). Also Block allows state attacks to go through on a success while when you Dodge/Counterattack they are ignored (as I understand them). So at no point should you EVER think Block is worth squat, because at best it's only as good as pistoleer 2/0/0/0.
Padre
Daros
Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:15 pm
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PadreBook wrote:
What Gunman fails to mention is that Block allows half damage when it's SUCCESSFUL unlike Dodge or Counterattack so even at +125 that's the equivalent of only +63 Dodge/Counterattack (actually worse than that but that would take more explaining). Also Block allows state attacks to go through on a success while when you Dodge/Counterattack they are ignored (as I understand them). So at no point should you EVER think Block is worth squat, because at best it's only as good as pistoleer 2/0/0/0.
Padre
..... huh? 
We know all that... he was asking about stacking block, and Gunman gave him the honest facts about it...
Block sucking is a different thing entirely, and we know ALL about it.
JLG88
Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:40 pm
#9
i like block personally....i'm used to taking damage but i see less of it :/
PadreBook
Wed Jun 09, 2004 8:53 am
#10
Daros wrote:
PadreBook wrote:
What Gunman fails to mention is that Block allows half damage when it's SUCCESSFUL unlike Dodge or Counterattack so even at +125 that's the equivalent of only +63 Dodge/Counterattack (actually worse than that but that would take more explaining). Also Block allows state attacks to go through on a success while when you Dodge/Counterattack they are ignored (as I understand them). So at no point should you EVER think Block is worth squat, because at best it's only as good as pistoleer 2/0/0/0.
Padre..... huh?We know all that... he was asking about stacking block, and Gunman gave him the honest facts about it...Block sucking is a different thing entirely, and we know ALL about it.
No we don't, I mean I have to reiterate this over and over to make it clear. I am constantly seeing replys from people who should know better going what's the big deal it's just a little damage. Uh since I can't slap them I have to just hammer away that if you were taking half damage everytime you dodge/counterattack your level of uberness/fun would be drastically reduced.
Padre
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