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Thread: Pikemen VS DOC RIFLEMEN
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Bh234312
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:39 am
#1
Hey guys,
Pike is like the CM of melee and are only way of prevailing in PvP is DoT's and overwhelming opponents with states,...,but what happens when we face a Rifle, ,Doc? They'll Knit us for one and heal everthing we place on them. I was thinking you DoT him then use master brawler 20 second warcy and just do that to wear him down,....,Post Suggestions please
TheSerinator
Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:43 am
#2
Use LOS to your advantage. Make them come to you. Once they're in range, slap them with the areaattack2 with a DOT weapon, throw in a lunge or KD, continue keeping dizzy on them with areattack2 while applying DOTs. Rifle/doc won't have the state defenses to stay up for long.
One of my favorites is to let them start kiting you, then pull a 180, run out of their range until they chase, hit burst run and charge them. With server lag the way it is, you're on top of them before they know you changed directions.
And burst run is your friend.
DomMantell
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:09 am
#3
A rifleman/doc has garbage for state defences. The best they get is +30 defense vs. posture change (up).
Melee gets a 2.5x to-hit modifier against anyone holding a rifle.
Get inside melee range, intimidate, KD them then apply the dizzy, if they manage to get to their feet, use polearmhit3 to make them kneel, if he stands he'll probably fall over dizzy again.
Either your opponent with spend the entire fight flat on his back or he'll spend the entire time healing the states that you put on him.
Don't forget that rifle/doc gets no melee mitigation, a good VL or LVA will rip them apart if you can get them on the floor.
Melee gets a 2.5x to-hit modifier against anyone holding a rifle.
Get inside melee range, intimidate, KD them then apply the dizzy, if they manage to get to their feet, use polearmhit3 to make them kneel, if he stands he'll probably fall over dizzy again.
Either your opponent with spend the entire fight flat on his back or he'll spend the entire time healing the states that you put on him.
Don't forget that rifle/doc gets no melee mitigation, a good VL or LVA will rip them apart if you can get them on the floor.
Bh234312
Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:29 am
#4
Thanks for the help guys, one more problem i have is fencer i intimidate and apply all stats but he dodges so i cant get my dot's to stick.BUT thats what you get duelign with 4-x-x-3 (im trying to master today)
Oberon131313
Fri Jul 30, 2004 12:06 am
#5
well, it depends on if you are fighting a doc/rifleman who knows what he's doing or not.
Any good Doc Rifleman is going to have EVERYTHING dumped in to mind, so his regen rates are probably going to be insane, especially if he has a musician's buff.
DOTs now break warcry, so trying the "DOT and wait" thing isn't going to work.
most docs have a /stand;/healstate dizzy macro, which work instantly, so dizzy/KD is out of the fight.'
best bet, hope you have a good 100%+ potency mind fire, otherwise, run.
as far as fighting the fencer goes, make sure you have stun armor (make sure for all PvP you do), and take a citros snowcake....trust me, that +40 to accuracy REALLY helps.
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