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Thread: DMG MOD X3 ??? What are they thinking? Can you Help a Master Pikeman out?

Akaria
Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:24 am
#1

I just visited SWG Resource Center.......


I read that our Polearm Hit 3 is on a x3 DMG MOD



Why? I don't understand this.... I also read that The TKA and Swordsman get a x4 DMG MOD...


This is crazy, no wonder they do more dmg than us, their Unarmed Hit 2 and Two Hand Sword Hit 2 are the same DMG MOD as our Polearm Hit 3.....


This is not right.... no way should they ever EVER do more dmg than a Pikeman in one hit.


If any of you have any knowledge on why they did this or have some web pages or post that explain this to me I would really appreciate it.


Thanks for your help,

Akaria Tusami
Dynastar
Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:37 am
#2



Swordsman would do more damage even if we had a 4x multiplier. They're the damage kings, plain and simple.


However, it is still asinine that we have a 3x multiplier. I believe it was stealth nerfed in the same patch that brought the KD timer, but I can't remember for sure.



Ramsey Logan
By Federal Law, Riflemen do it with 16 inches or more!
Master Pikeman
vze1
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:12 am
#3

Don't forget to mention the posture change that accompanies it.


/sarcastic Works awesome after a sweep.


annelid0
Wed Feb 04, 2004 3:37 pm
#4

Lucky for us, we got those 10 questions to ask the devs. Reference question nine:

9) Why is our hit3 modifier only a x3 attack, when the other melee classes receive a x4 attack? Can we get this fixed?

And the answer straight from TH...

Again, this is the main focus of the combat balance - - it will address these issues for the Pikemen, the Carbineer, the pistoleer professions and all of the combat professions. That is why it is so important.

There, that should clear everything up.

They're not thinking.



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Ilykerrimo
Grumpy Old Pikeman
Masochistic Wookiee

Vercingetorix99
Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:26 am
#5

Hmm let me see a bare hand no weapon can hit for 3k and a 6 foot steel vibrating axe only hits for 2k well **edit** balance is in the hand that wields the axe i guess they want us all to go TKA
Vife
Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:49 am
#6






vze1 wrote:

Don't forget to mention the posture change that accompanies it.


/sarcastic Works awesome after a sweep.









You mean the excitement I get every time I see "You opponant's posture has not been changed"


when I use PH3. I'd love to have the posture change part of it nerfed just so I wouldn't get this message every time I use it.

Akaria
Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:18 am
#7

Ha the best thing I loved about Polearm hit 3 is the fact that it totally destroys the use once you get dizzy and Kd to land on a person and NPCs.... who here loves the fact that if they are dizzy and KD is on them, if you hit with Polearm 3 and the posture change sticks, it will allow them to stand up.... that is rather annoying for the most dmg I can do is with that hit....... sigh, I guess our class is the only one that can't spam our best attack and have it work well.... we acctually have to think about what skills we can do and have to do to win......


"Nerf Pikeman....... these people have to play smart to get somewhere..... we can't have that now can we?"


Akaria Tusami


Zalana
Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:33 am
#8

PH3 has to be the worst overall master skill attack, though I think pistoleers have some good competition.


1) The damage multiplier sucks


2) Posture change? We have what 4 other posture change attacks we could use if you have mastered brawler, this is more than useless with the bug that forces them to stand.


3) Its massivly HAM heavy


All that being said though, with a 700 damage LVA and at the speed cap I can beat a NS spellweaver to death inside the 20 seconds of Warcry2





Three accts - Cancelled - Thanks for all the fun

Oh and I will never buy another SOE product again, or SONYproducts or recommend them to anyone ever again
Akaria
Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:47 am
#9

Not true I got you beat.....


I Master Bounty Hunter, Fast Blast sucks..... so bad....


With my Scatter Pistol, Min 130 - Max 230 around that, the most dmg I did with Fast Blast was 1400 dmg on a creature without doing posture change....


This ability divides the dmg by 3 to all stats.....


so I was doing around 300 to 450 to each stat.....


with Torso shot... the best ability they get, I could do 1.2k dmg to the health pool every time and do a fire dot.... what would you use at Master? I rest my case... lol Polearm hit 3 is atleast fast and does the most dmg thus far as a Master Pikeman compared to my other hits.


What skills do you all use the most? I would like to compare notes.


Thanks guys,


Akaria Tusami


ex Master Bounty Hunter

Master Pikeman

Doctor 4/4/4/1
Ludakrishna
Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:14 pm
#10

anyway akaria, bh get 3 moves at master (or somethin like that). one isnt that good, meh.


lol i find if i use hit3 directly after lunge2 or sweep they dont get back up cuz they are still in the falling animation when i hit them. but the prob is i miss so much right after a kd. even though it's only a x3 mod, i can still kill ranged guys pretty fast if i kd them then use it.



LilPup
BattleMonkie
Fri Feb 06, 2004 1:53 am
#11

At master BH sprayshot+kd is deadly
Dynastar
Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:25 am
#12






Akaria wrote:

Not true I got you beat.....


I Master Bounty Hunter, Fast Blast sucks..... so bad....


With my Scatter Pistol, Min 130 - Max 230 around that, the most dmg I did with Fast Blast was 1400 dmg on a creature without doing posture change....


This ability divides the dmg by 3 to all stats.....


so I was doing around 300 to 450 to each stat.....


with Torso shot... the best ability they get, I could do 1.2k dmg to the health pool every time and do a fire dot.... what would you use at Master? I rest my case... lol Polearm hit 3 is atleast fast and does the most dmg thus far as a Master Pikeman compared to my other hits.


What skills do you all use the most? I would like to compare notes.


Thanks guys,


Akaria Tusami


ex Master Bounty Hunter

Master Pikeman

Doctor 4/4/4/1





Fastblast is offset by the fact that you have other specials that are useful.


Hell, I'd LOVE to have hit for 6k in melee range like the LLC does.





Ramsey Logan
By Federal Law, Riflemen do it with 16 inches or more!
Master Pikeman
Akaria
Mon Feb 09, 2004 8:23 am
#13

Master Bounty Hunter was a huge let down for me. *begins to cry*


I loved that class and was the reason I joined this game. I popped a holo only after a few mins of playing around at Master. Until they fix that class and make it what it should be I will not be dropping Pikeman or Doctor.


Lol as for the 6k damage...... when i was a Master we had the 2.5x dmg against us.... Nothing like having to do a special at the range of 16m when what your fighting can hit you at 20m causing a KD. Nothing like having x5 mod against you while your dizzy and on the ground not being able to do anything.


1 2 3 your out. Oh and I loved when I dueled a Master Two Handswords man and he used Center of being..... and even with my +130 Pistol accuracy Mods I hit em but he counter attacked every hit I did... I shot ten times at him before he dropped me.... Needless to say I have not forgoten that day and is why I play a Melee class as of now.



Akaria Tusami


"Evil shall always win, because good is dumb." Dark Helmet


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