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Thread: This is the strangest thing.....

whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:36 pm
#1

Anyway awhile back we used to do 2.5times damage against riflemen - but they changed that instead saying they would make it easier for melee to hit ranged. This i have never noticed - i have always had a lot of difficulty hitting riflemen albeit a lot would be stackers. The other day my TKA/fencer/rifle friend told me that when he fights mynocks in melee they hit him irregularly, when he uses a rifle they cannot hit him. So we tested it me versus him - same thing happened he wasa much harder to hit when he had his rifle equipped(standing still) despite the fact that his melee defence is the same(165) anyway. I decided to test it i have 165melee defence and went and attacked some rancors they hit me about 1/3(a guess) when my LVA is equipped i switched to rifle(i am MARKSMEN 3 0 0 0) and they cannot hit me. This seems very screwie - sounds like a biig pvp and pve bonus to the hard hitting defence stacking riflemen.

I was wondering if anyone knows if this is the way its meant to be? or what u think about this?

Ikewa
OutbackWookiee
Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:51 pm
#2

If this is true someone needs to raise hell about it.



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whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:59 pm
#3

it absolutely true just done some more experimenting - been killing rancors for bout an hour - get hit consistently when pike is equippped and they continually miss when i have a rifle equipped - they can actually hit but so friggen rare - im gonna do a little bit of testing right now.
whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:08 pm
#4

ok - counting hit miss ratio -

first off let me outline my method i accidently drew an enraged and a regular - i bleed the enraged then equipped rifle waited till bleed had killed it(shooting whole time) then did the same to the rancor - immediatly noticed only time i really got hit was when equipping pike to bleed but will post specific info in five minutes
whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:21 pm
#5

ok i only attacked with my rifle till the first(enraged rancor dropped - got bored in that time the enraged rancor hit me three times and missed me 60times the normal rancor missed me 45 times and hit me zero times(round 45times lost my count at end)

now gonna kill an enraged on auto attack pike

btw remember i am standing still whole time till it runs away at end
ScDarkKnight
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:25 pm
#6

What the ....


Well actually I'm not really surprised ... Sound like Devs Logic to me ...


They just did the inverse again ... like the Unarmed:6m Sword:5m Pike:4m


I wouldlike to believe Devs aren't Idiots ... that they are doing a good job ... and I do ... but sometime .... .... ......................................................... ........ ......... ....... ... .. .. . oh well



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whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:32 pm
#7

ok btw i have no idea how to post screenshots but this is incredibly easy to test for yourself - ok i killed an enraged rancor standing still on auto attack with my lva till it kites at end it hits me nine time and misses 12 times and i 'counter-attack(read block?) once.

so against the enraged rencor and regular rancor in the time it took me to kill the enraged with a bleed then equipping rifle they missed a combined 105 times and hit three times

against a single enraged with pike equipped and auto attack it hits me 9times misses me 12 and i 'counter attack once'

in my humble honest opinion that is really **edit**en screwed up
antares_Kauri
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:32 pm
#8

At the tusken fort, I tend to get hit with bleeds much more frequently when I'm fighting with a polearm than unarmed, stun baton or ph. I've tried this repeatedly, it's a noticeable difference. I still get bled sometimes with the others, but it seems to happen much less frequently. This is just an informal observation, not necessarily true.



antares
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antares_Kauri
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:33 pm
#9

What level rifleman/pikeman are you?



antares
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SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
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whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:34 pm
#10

for the rifle test btw i did not include the times the rancors hit me while i put the bleeds on with my lva(they did hit me).

can we do legwand's 'raising hell' im feeling all bitter what with stacking getting nerfed, our incredibly informative 10answers, and now evidence of how easy riflemen are to hit im feeling great just great.

give me back my x2.5 modifier to damage please
whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:36 pm
#11

pikemen - master
brawler - master
fencer - 4 2 0 0
tka - 4 0 0 4
marksmen 3 0 0 0 (no riflemen)
medic 3 0 0 0

i think thats it

Ikewa
whyhellothere
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:40 pm
#12

if somebody wants i could email them the screenshots so they can post it - or someone can test this themselves
antares_Kauri
Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:42 pm
#13

Go to www.imagedump.com for a free place to put your images.



antares
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|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
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