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Thread: I JUST DUELED A PIKEMAN, AND HOLY CRAP ARE THEY OVERPOWERED. It needs a NERF... badly!
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MexicanAmerican
Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:47 pm
#1
I am a master commando, and i dueled a pikeman who was not even a master. I'll just make it quick and simple. He is waaaaaaay overpowered. If anything needs a good nerf, its definetly the overpowered pikeman. The only way to fix this is with a nerf. I would write more, but my time is limited. Its ridiculous the way they have been overpowered.
Gunman21
Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:50 pm
#2
yah buddy, keep thinking that...What's more realistic is that they were stacked with tka and/or fencer.....or had 80%+ armor and buffs.
Nice 16 posts by the way
Message Edited by Gunman21 on 02-14-2004 07:54 PM
psycowars
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:01 pm
#3
yea i love being so overpowered that any noob with unarmed 4 and totaly whip my butt.
Mavarus
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:03 pm
#4
Your crazy get stop trolling. Im not even pikeman and know that they have been broken since beta. You just plain and simple suck at PvP bro. Worry about your own profession and stop trolling.
go /cry
Aecen
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:04 pm
#5
I REALLY hope your joking here if not you sir are a idiot...that or one of the worst fighters ever...
antares_Kauri
Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:40 pm
#6
Just because you got beat doesn't mean someone is overpowered. I'm sure you've beat people before just as badly, would you want them to all go to the commando forums and yell about how they are overpowered? Oh wait, that's right, they do.
antares
master pikeman
cntrybrian
Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:28 pm
#7
OMG that has gotta be the funniest post ever, that pikeman are overpowered. HAHA i feel sry for u if a pikeman killed ya.
Voradorex
Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:50 pm
#8
In my opinion, he is just being sarcastic. But unless he wants to admitt that he is a complete retard, im gonna go with the sarcastic theory.
GabrielsSword
Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:23 pm
#10
All I'm going to say is wow. I never thought I'd ever hear that from someone who was actually serious.
Now I do know one thing. I went out with my friends yesterday doing Enranged and Bull Rancors on Dath to finish Fencer. I only had 1 lvl 4 block to complete it. Anyway 2 of those close rl friends are master Commandos.
Now this is the honest truth...I was dishing out more damage then either 1 of them. At first I thought they were holding back so I could get the last xp I needed. But it wasn't the case at all.
Unfortunately the only real weapon that works well for a commando is their flame thower and these Rancors had hi heat resists. But their other weapons could not outdo the damage I was dealing. I thought it was my master brawler so I untrained it for a test and I still could out damage them.
We were all buffed and I was using food and gold to help my mind out but jeez. These guys should do way more damage than one guy with an ugly 1h stick that had an ok slice on it. I was doing the highest bleed, and melee1hBodyHit2 because BodyHit3 was in the box I needed trained. I think this patch has seriously hurt commandos from what I saw.
This doesn't excuse this guy coming in here and asking er crying for a nerf when he may have been beaten by a "hybrid" but this is Star Wars. A Master Commando should be able to outdamage a guy with a fencing weapon in his hand. One of my friends was so fed up he left the game. I mean I saw him the next day and he cancelled his account...this is really sad how SOE is handling this stuff.
Here's how I see it boys and girls ( I think I can say that in a non-demeaning way seeing how I turn 40 Feb 23rd). A game has rules made up by the people who made the game. Now I wholeheartedly agree that Pikeman was borked from the beginning and I have been a strong supporter of it getting fixed as well as other professions getting fixed.
Unfortunately there is a huge problem....what is it you may ask....the player base is molding and changing the rules of the game. Whatever profession or community has the loudest voice or the most articulate wording is starting to influence things in this game that should have never changed or even been in game.
The economy is out of control also...duping, ease of money coming into the game, etc. have basically destroyed this game. Everyone has to have the best of the best, thats human nature but when it's actually possible for everyone to have the best of the best it has made clones of u all. I hardly ever see bone armor anymore. A noob can buy a nice set of composite easy now when all he has to do is beg for a few bucks and people give him a 100K like its water.
These were hard times...characters in this time (with a few exceptions)frame had to scrap for anything they could get a hold of. It has become a joke. Mission payouts should have be like 2 or 3 credits from the beginning...with maybe 10 to 20 credits being the high end ones. After the initial injection of money into the economy...all new money should have ceased...then all money sinks should have been used to fund missions, etc. This was just one idea out of many I've read that could have been better than what they have done here. They should have hired a few economists when deciding this important aspect of the game.
Everyone (non noobs) can pretty much buy anything they want in the game...PERIOD Some have multi millions sitting in their accounts for what...to help fund a Jedi that everyone will eventually have. So you can be the first...then what? Space...everyone flying in yahts...whats the point. The point is I don't want an easy game. I want it to be friggin hard. My son plows thru easy playstation and xbox games in a few days. Where are they now...on the shelf collecting dust. Make this game hard...exciting...a challenge...quit pandering to every ball baby and make it the Star Wars that I experienced as a kid.
If a guy spends all or more of his skill points in combat professions they should be able to easily kill you...It's like a car mechanic who has trained up his marksmanship and bought a nice competition pistol thinking hes bad ass and taking on a fully trained battle hardened special forces guy....The special forces guy should be able to kill him within seconds.
I hope the devs can straighten this stuff out. I really do. For some it's a little too late. My wife loves this game because it's all new to her (the first game she's ever played lol) and I'm not going to ruin it for her. I don't even tell her stuff like this. I am waiting for the day (and I know it will eventually happen) when she has had enough. Then we will move on. I love the original idea of Star Wars and being able to unwind at my PC once and a while and have fun. I'm not perfect and I know the dev team is struggling under deadlines, budgets, pressing managers, etc. I just hope someone at the top can see what has happened and take charge. Make this game Star Wars. I really do. Because I am fighting to even log on anymore...and I hate that.
Sorry for losing a gasket...us crazy pikeman do that sometimes. Oh and all you control freaks who tear this post up for grammer, spelling, or whatever, don't waste your time. I'll help you out. It's totally screwed up.
Now I do know one thing. I went out with my friends yesterday doing Enranged and Bull Rancors on Dath to finish Fencer. I only had 1 lvl 4 block to complete it. Anyway 2 of those close rl friends are master Commandos.
Now this is the honest truth...I was dishing out more damage then either 1 of them. At first I thought they were holding back so I could get the last xp I needed. But it wasn't the case at all.
Unfortunately the only real weapon that works well for a commando is their flame thower and these Rancors had hi heat resists. But their other weapons could not outdo the damage I was dealing. I thought it was my master brawler so I untrained it for a test and I still could out damage them.
We were all buffed and I was using food and gold to help my mind out but jeez. These guys should do way more damage than one guy with an ugly 1h stick that had an ok slice on it. I was doing the highest bleed, and melee1hBodyHit2 because BodyHit3 was in the box I needed trained. I think this patch has seriously hurt commandos from what I saw.
This doesn't excuse this guy coming in here and asking er crying for a nerf when he may have been beaten by a "hybrid" but this is Star Wars. A Master Commando should be able to outdamage a guy with a fencing weapon in his hand. One of my friends was so fed up he left the game. I mean I saw him the next day and he cancelled his account...this is really sad how SOE is handling this stuff.
Here's how I see it boys and girls ( I think I can say that in a non-demeaning way seeing how I turn 40 Feb 23rd). A game has rules made up by the people who made the game. Now I wholeheartedly agree that Pikeman was borked from the beginning and I have been a strong supporter of it getting fixed as well as other professions getting fixed.
Unfortunately there is a huge problem....what is it you may ask....the player base is molding and changing the rules of the game. Whatever profession or community has the loudest voice or the most articulate wording is starting to influence things in this game that should have never changed or even been in game.
The economy is out of control also...duping, ease of money coming into the game, etc. have basically destroyed this game. Everyone has to have the best of the best, thats human nature but when it's actually possible for everyone to have the best of the best it has made clones of u all. I hardly ever see bone armor anymore. A noob can buy a nice set of composite easy now when all he has to do is beg for a few bucks and people give him a 100K like its water.
These were hard times...characters in this time (with a few exceptions)frame had to scrap for anything they could get a hold of. It has become a joke. Mission payouts should have be like 2 or 3 credits from the beginning...with maybe 10 to 20 credits being the high end ones. After the initial injection of money into the economy...all new money should have ceased...then all money sinks should have been used to fund missions, etc. This was just one idea out of many I've read that could have been better than what they have done here. They should have hired a few economists when deciding this important aspect of the game.
Everyone (non noobs) can pretty much buy anything they want in the game...PERIOD Some have multi millions sitting in their accounts for what...to help fund a Jedi that everyone will eventually have. So you can be the first...then what? Space...everyone flying in yahts...whats the point. The point is I don't want an easy game. I want it to be friggin hard. My son plows thru easy playstation and xbox games in a few days. Where are they now...on the shelf collecting dust. Make this game hard...exciting...a challenge...quit pandering to every ball baby and make it the Star Wars that I experienced as a kid.
If a guy spends all or more of his skill points in combat professions they should be able to easily kill you...It's like a car mechanic who has trained up his marksmanship and bought a nice competition pistol thinking hes bad ass and taking on a fully trained battle hardened special forces guy....The special forces guy should be able to kill him within seconds.
I hope the devs can straighten this stuff out. I really do. For some it's a little too late. My wife loves this game because it's all new to her (the first game she's ever played lol) and I'm not going to ruin it for her. I don't even tell her stuff like this. I am waiting for the day (and I know it will eventually happen) when she has had enough. Then we will move on. I love the original idea of Star Wars and being able to unwind at my PC once and a while and have fun. I'm not perfect and I know the dev team is struggling under deadlines, budgets, pressing managers, etc. I just hope someone at the top can see what has happened and take charge. Make this game Star Wars. I really do. Because I am fighting to even log on anymore...and I hate that.
Sorry for losing a gasket...us crazy pikeman do that sometimes. Oh and all you control freaks who tear this post up for grammer, spelling, or whatever, don't waste your time. I'll help you out. It's totally screwed up.
Message Edited by GabrielsSword on 02-25-2004 06:20 AM
belegaraid
Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:42 pm
#11
MexicanAmerican wrote:
I am a master commando, and i dueled a pikeman who was not even a master. I'll just make it quick and simple. He is waaaaaaay overpowered. If anything needs a good nerf, its definetly the overpowered pikeman. The only way to fix this is with a nerf. I would write more, but my time is limited. Its ridiculous the way they have been overpowered.
I agree with everythign 200%, smuggler should be nerfed.
belgradar
Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:20 am
#12
Mavarus wrote:
Your crazy get stop trolling. Im not even pikeman and know that they have been broken since beta. You just plain and simple suck at PvP bro. Worry about your own profession and stop trolling.
go /cry
thats right he should stop trollong only i am allowed to Troll
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