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Thread: sick of complaints about pvp

Witter
Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:17 am
#1

if you want to be viable in pvp, choose a ranged profession, or find a way to sneak up on ppl, it's silly to continue to ask for pvp help from the devs! you are a melee class, and that means you fight up close. stop complaining. if you want to melee pvp get master brawler for lunge2 and stop asking for stretch armstrong arms! i mean come on you can hit just as far as a friggin combat staff now! does that seem right? this is a <FONT size=5>role playing game, </FONT><FONT size=3>play your roles as meleers! if you want to role play a ranged player go choose a ranged profession! I mean come on, anyone seen Indiana Jones? remember the scene with the swordsman? bang one shot done! deal with it this game is supposed to reflect at least some realism.</FONT> YES we do need ham reductions, but as far as pvp goes that is the way it should be. i would say it would be a high estimate to be able to beat 1 in 5 ranged opponents with a melee char and that is the way it should be. once in a while you get lucky and can burst and take down 2-3 at once, but that is the once in awhile chance that it should be. <FONT size=4>I am a master swordsman/pikeman and i don't complain when i get my assss handed to me on a platter because that is the way it should be! deal with it or quit</FONT>.
antares_Kauri
Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:48 am
#2

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Xedshu
Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:34 am
#3

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STOP NERFING THE "OVER POWERED", START FIXING THE "UNDER POWERED"!

KarlaceEQ wrote:
"Ya know the devs spent alot of time and energy making sure Vader doesnt yawn, you want them to fix a profession to????"

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BlueNandruidh
Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:17 pm
#4

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Gunman21
Sun Oct 12, 2003 8:35 pm
#5

Dude, get a clue. It's been stated numerous times by the devs that if we get within range, the oponent should die. The problem is getting within range.



But that doesnt work right now. Even if we get within range, we have to be lucky to win, and thats not the way it's supposed to work.





Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors

Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

EdelKrieger
Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:20 pm
#6

Learn to use your skills and surroundings. You will be suprised how dumb those "master ***insert non-melee profession here***" can be

ArkMindSpear
Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:37 pm
#7

i don't even care about ranged.....i wan't to be able to fight other melee types....



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Danneh
Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:03 am
#8

hey witter guess what? ur **edit**ing stupid shut up


Ipree_Keamym
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:11 am
#9

My problem with pvp past the 200ham cost moves that miss much more than tka is having to lead a moving target by 10m and still only hitting a few times. Since mastering pike I've now taken up tka, 4 2 4 4 after 3 days but I did have max combatxp heh. TKA is just a taste of what pikeman should have also been. That and the melee and ranged defense mods don't seem to account for jack. IMO defense mods are still broken reguardless of what a dev says. A dev needs to take some gametime testing and see how jacked defense mods are.



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dstalker
Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:52 pm
#10

ohhh shut up luke could kill shooters i want be able to kill shooters also .....end of conversation
TheMysticWookie
Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:16 am
#11

Here is my biggest complaint about Pikeman and PvP.We do less damage than a master fencer, master TKA, and Master 2 Handed Swordsmen, but we have the worse to-hit on our weapons than any other class and are slower......can I beat a dead horse any harder? If they would go by strengths and weaknesses, then ours should be EXTENSIVE damage at the price of not being able to hit all of the time (I estimate about 10-20% miss rate at master with our top end weapon LVA) and lower speed. I would care a lot less about high HAM costs and missing quite a bit, if I felt the damage I dealt wasn't so utterly pathetic. The only time I see high numbers for damage from being a master pikeman is directly after a KD which puts dmg around 2-4k. That s about it. Nothing else spectacular. Maybe at a later date they will make it worthwhile, but for now, pikeman is all about the look and being a total underdog.


I have done3 friendly duels.1 against a master pikeman when I was a lower level in pikeman and 2 against a master heavy swordsman. Needless to say, I was 0/3. Pikeman mainly won because of their higher skill level, and the posture down took me offguard. Master Heavy Swordsman was a total smack down because of their mind bleed, and that they can actually hit for decent dmg in PvP. For the swordsman fight, I did switch from LVA to VL, but the end results were still the same.


Chuu'toii


"Anyone joining pikemen should automatically get a bullseye for any clothing or armor they wear"

Pirita
Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:51 am
#12

I'm a Master Brawler, Master Creature Handler and on my Pikeman skills I'm at 4,2,4,3(aiming to become a master pikeman).


When I do PvP and I want to get in ranged I use my pets, I understand that some of our brawler brothers and sisters do not have creature handler xp but it helps. Since day one I have never used blasters and I refuse to use them. It has been hard to go up in my Brawler tree and specially on my Pike tree but is rewarding when you reach your goals. I'm a tank right now when I do PvP, I fought a Master Commando over the weekend and it was a great fight, some of you might think he won but I was able to put him out, he started running and I used my 3 Grand Wrix to slow him down(gotta love those cats), when I got close enough I did sweep and then warcry2, stunt2 and intimidate2, after that I bled him and he was finished. We did 5 rounds and I was able to win 3 out of the 5. On the 2 rounds that he won, hetried to DB me my pets took care of him.


For those who like blasters go ahead and adopt a profession that offer blasters but for me I'll stay a truly brawler fighitng with my pets in the inside.


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