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Thread: Pikeman defense vs Pistoleer

MarshalCreed
Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:34 pm
#1

First off let me say I am not advocating a NERF, and never will, however. I looked at the "new" (maybe not so new) defensive stats for Pistoleer and they are incredible. I then looked at Pike and Heavy sword and laughed, then cried. WHY!?!?!


Why is it that a pistoleer who already has outrageous dodge needs to have more melee defense than a Pike/Swordsman? They are better at melee defense than someone who's profession is melee? I understand the dodge ability as that is not necessarily related to melee but overall dexterity (which pistoleers should have). I also noticed how the pistoleer had mods on every box in every branch where as the Pikemen and Swordsmen dont. What little melee defense they have (+10, wuwu, in their defensive branches) is pretty weak.


So, keep the pistoleer as it is, just help out the poor Swordsman and Pikeman. That is all I ask. So please, pretty please with sugar on top, make it better!! It hurts!




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Braglor
Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:39 pm
#2






MarshalCreed wrote:

So please, pretty please with sugar on top, make it better!! It hurts!



do not worry, changes are coming affecting all combat classes

MarshalCreed
Sun Dec 28, 2003 7:59 pm
#3

I know, the COmbat System Redux. But there have been some quick fixes I have seen for TKA as well as Pistoleer.


This overhaul of the combat system wont be out in full for several more months. January the weapons rework should hit Test Center which means Februrary for the live servers, then we still have to go through phase 3, HAM, the phase 4, professions. This might not happen till sometime this summer. I really dont want to wait that long as I will probably move on to another game or be playing a Jedi and say the heck with the "naive" professions.




Roboute Guilliman
Imperial Major
Northern Storm Command
Kaizer88
Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:16 pm
#4

Pistoleers need their defenses. If you look at them compared to the other marksman profs (rifleman and carbineers) They cant hope to compare with them in raw damage. However, their strength is their defenses and their versatility, pluss the fact that they can be combines with BH and smuggler mods for some incredible weapon skill

Some might say TOO incredible...

As for swordsman, they're supposed to be offensive powerhouses, same as us (though we do less damage, AND they get to target mind. A severe imbalance between us)

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Shuut
Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:52 am
#5

A good krayt weapon completes the pistolneer, I have pistols that's 400+ damage unpoweredup. For carbineer if they want a 400+ gun they have to risk a gun with insane ham 70-80-70ish. Rifleman's really damaging though, t21 might need a fix lol.



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Braglor
Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:25 am
#6







Kaizer88 wrote:



Pistoleers need their defenses.



Noone said they didn't need their defenses. The issue at hand is that they as a ranged profession has more melee defense than one of the melee classes has, aka pikeMen. MarshalCreed simply stated that it would be nice if the pure melee classes had that much in melee defense too
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