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Thread: P-V-P Hart PAINS

cadof
Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:02 am
#1

P-V-P Hart PAINS
Fencer out does pike any day of the week. I was in a star port and saw two imps teaming up on a rebel master pike man. So I decided to help out the rebel. So I hit the rebel master pike man with a heal. Because I was covert at the time right about the same master pike man kills the one of them think he was a tka not sure though does not mater. So we team up on the master fencer that was buffed we get the nock down dizzy on him and get with in two hits of death and the dizzy weirs off a he stands up and stem him self to full life. Hits me a few times and there it goes I am dead because I am not buffed and only armor that wreath any protection against stun damage is a shield generator. Witch I did not have at that time. Then the fencer goes after the other master pike man and he dies. Now how on earth one master fencer can take on two master pike man and live is just wrong. I can seeing killing one of use but both come on. Two masters on one there should be no contest. No mater what perfection you are.
signal1941
Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:20 am
#2

if he was buffed and you were not and you had stun vulnerable composite why are you upset that you lost?

buffs > all



Takro Kest
cadof
Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:48 am
#3

Ah hear we go imp vs rebels. The point I was trying to make is that pike man suck in pvp. If you can tell me other wise do so. I am not made that I died I am mad that I suck in pvp, and wandering if it is the pike man profession. But I cannot see two master pike man sucking in the same profession. I am trying getting the problem fix not role-playing. Yes pike can kill npc but we need a chance to kill in pvp.And if any one els has exsampes like this I would like to read them.
CerebrusTantarrris
Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:53 am
#4

true if it was him buffed vs fencer buffed and you werent buffed you might as well have not been there offensively.


the other day me and this tkm go into it in sp hall (both full buffs including mind) and during the long fight 2 different master rifleman(one 3 times) attacked me (unbuffed they were just passers by) but due to the confined space and area attacks they died without notice. I dont consider this me vs 2 or me vs 3 becuase they were non factors





ingame names, ThreeHeadeddog and Cerebrus

I am a master pikeman. That is who I am and who I want to be. I am not a rifleman who uses a pikeman tag to decieve his opponents, I am not a holo grinder who wears his pikeman tag as a testimemt to the pain he has gone through grinding. I am not a pikeman who has mastered another combat proffession to support my offense, I will not degrade my pikeness in this way. I am a master pikeman. That is who I am and who I want to be.
JediQuic
Sat Apr 10, 2004 3:21 am
#5

It's not realy Pikemen Sucking in PvP that is the problem here....


Comosite armor is the problem.....It needs to be ...."Balanced" down to the point where it isn't the End all best armor in the game


But untill then Stun damage(and poison)will Own all in PvP, even fighting against Stun layeredComp armor, Stun damage > All.



So don't feel bad, Just Push for an Armor Revamp....or a Stun damage pike weapon

CarpaBob
Sat Apr 10, 2004 3:24 am
#6

Reading your description of the fight its obvious why the Master Fencer won. Of the two Pikemen he fought only one was capable of healing and that was you and as you were unbuffed he knocks you out of the fight pretty quickly. This leaves him facing one Pikemen over whom he has a large advantage, he's quicker than the pikemen, probably has better defenses (not sure on that one), can heal himself and is doing stun damage which very few people have a defense against.



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Meskall
Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:03 am
#7


There are ALOT of variables in PvP, equipment, knowledge, template...


1) you where unbuffed, your cannon fodder without any stun protection.


2) the fencer also had doctor up to a pretty high level if he could stim 1k plus, possibly high enuff to cure dots... making a huge part of the pikeman damage output useless.



Does this mean pikeman suck in PvP? No, come over to bloodfin i'll show you the power of a pikeman.


Message Edited by Meskall on 04-10-2004 04:04 AM



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ScDarkKnight
Sat Apr 10, 2004 8:18 am
#8

Basic Pikeman does suck in PvP ... but if you are ready to spend lot of money on your PvP gear ... well we're the best Melee profession ...


All you need is a couple of Dot lances ... Fire, Poison, Disease ... Mind Poison/Fire are really nasty .... only with these 2 lances you can probably win most of your duel ... a 900+ max dmg LVA can help also =P


You need skills tapes also, particulary speed, you need around +18-20 (not sure exactly) to be capped at 1.0 speed even with Polearm Hit III with a 4.5 speed LVA, no need to tell you this is an important factor ... accuracy could help you as well =P


Next well .. the usual ... The overpowered Armor and the overpowered buffs ... some +420 Brandy (made by myself yay !!) a couple of canape, synthsteak, vercupti ... why not some muons .. and you're good to go ... everyone will flee your wrath ...


The only problem ... well this gear cost around 8-10M ... I paid it, some other guys paid it ... but we're still few ... but yeah .. a Pikeman with a basic crafted 450max LVA, no Dots lances sucks bad =(((


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