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Thread: How the combat revamp will affect Pikeman:

willy-wonga
Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:10 am
#1




Gunman21 wrote:



(We don't know where pikeman will be on this scale either, but on the slower end)



Message Edited by Gunman21 on 08-02-2004 06:20 PM




Wonderful..We're on the slow end. Yay for spending millions on Pikeman Speed AA's........



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RonninOtnemem
Mon Aug 02, 2004 2:36 pm
#2




JLG88 wrote:

o dear god when you get home please get rid of the ee's .... they hurt the eyes!


this is great info! ty





Keep the ee's in... it reminds people how to spell WookiEE


On the topic at hand... is Hurriwan correct that our speed should be between fencer and swordsmen? If so, we probably wont be getting a weapon with ap3. However, if we are supposed to be slower than swordsmen then it would stand to reason that we should deal more with a single hit (e.g. ap3 weapon or upped damage). Can you get us some clarification that?


Are there any talks about fixing block? Is it still scheduled for Combat Revamp or pre-JTL?


Other than that, list looks good, but like most people I'd like to know... will we get some love pre-JTL?




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Gunman21
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:15 pm
#3

(please excusethe useof the 'ee'...I'm at work and this keyboard sucks!)


There's a lot of misconceptions running around and I wanted to put some of them to rest. Here is how pikeman will be affected by things in the combat revamp....scheduled for post jtl.


Mitigation - This will be removed from pvp. That means our weapons with huge damage ranges don't get the shaft and our pvp damage increases.


Armor - Currently pikeman have a tough time doing damage. The truth of the matter is, everyone suffers this who doesn't have a stun weapon (or dots, which will have counters soon). Armor is going to get nerfed. Players won't be running around with 90% composite once this change gets put in. How does that affect us? We'll be able to damage players likee wee used to beefore armor became super good.


Speed- The entire speed formula is changing. Currently, everyone, from pistols to pikes has a speed cap of 1.0 seconds. The new formula will have different caps for everyone. Pistols *might* have a 1.0 speed cap, but rifles on the otheer hand *might* have an 8.0 speed cap. (I say might because we dont know yet) So, becoming a pistoleer for speed will really mean something. (We don't know where pikeman will be on this scale either, but on the slower end)


HAM- The ham system will change to bee similar to that on test center long ago. This means that we will no longer be self destructive and specials won't be spammable.


As you can see, pvp will be much better after the revamp of these major systems.

Message Edited by Gunman21 on 08-02-2004 06:20 PM




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JLG88
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:17 pm
#4
o dear god when you get home please get rid of the ee's .... they hurt the eyes!


this is great info! ty



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NeptuneSeraph
Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:16 pm
#5
excellent job




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willy-wonga
Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:17 pm
#6




Gunman21 wrote:



(We don't know where pikeman will be on this scale either, but on the slower end)



Message Edited by Gunman21 on 08-02-2004 06:20 PM




Wonderful..We're on the slow end. Yay for spending millions on Pikeman Speed AA's........



Momento Morae - Remeber You Will Die
Gunman21
Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:21 pm
#7
Not necessarilly a waste. I think it'll be similar to what it is now only with different caps.


IE lets say pikeeman are capped at 6.0 seconds. That meeans our weapons could be as slow as 10 seconds....skill tapes will still probably be needed. Of course, that's all speculation at this point




Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors
Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

rahzael
Mon Aug 02, 2004 7:49 pm
#8
sounds good. any word on pre-jtl fixes. any inkling of what could happen would go a long way



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HurriwanShinobi
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:10 pm
#9
realistically the poison and disease dots will be balanced in the new doc innoculation changes..... only fire will be still strong as it should they are a rare find......


our speed should be fairly fast as we are supposed to be in between a fencer and swordsman currently..... and we also dont have AP3 to warrent being so severly capped on speed.....


speeds for melee proffs are balanced currently imo, its the pistoleer (without BH) that are handicapped and rifleman are far to fast.... wouldnt it more practical to up the pistoleer speeds to +10 rather than +6 and make rifleman +5 instead of +10 and reduce that master box to say +10...... would make it more inline with the melee proffs aswell.


I have done all combat proffs and pistoleer and rifleman seem to be the only ones truley out of kilter.... maybe carbineers could do with a little speed as well, but there problems are the same as ours, which is a lack of a good weapon for PVP...



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Houdani
Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:16 pm
#10
Perchance, is this coming from the Correspondent Forum or are you just summarizing some of the tidbits that havepreviously been hinted at by the Devs? We like it when it comes from the Correspondent Forum ... let's us feel like we just got some inside information.


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RonninOtnemem
Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:59 pm
#11




JLG88 wrote:

o dear god when you get home please get rid of the ee's .... they hurt the eyes!


this is great info! ty





Keep the ee's in... it reminds people how to spell WookiEE


On the topic at hand... is Hurriwan correct that our speed should be between fencer and swordsmen? If so, we probably wont be getting a weapon with ap3. However, if we are supposed to be slower than swordsmen then it would stand to reason that we should deal more with a single hit (e.g. ap3 weapon or upped damage). Can you get us some clarification that?


Are there any talks about fixing block? Is it still scheduled for Combat Revamp or pre-JTL?


Other than that, list looks good, but like most people I'd like to know... will we get some love pre-JTL?




**********************************************************
Cloudrak == Master WookiEE

CrazEE == Novice Ewok
Bh234312
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:50 am
#12
Ill be Finally good in pvp once again, w00t *ponders the day of doc, fencer* *remembers the old scatter hit 2 * *cries*



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Bh234312
Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:51 am
#13
Thanks, Gun for the update. Your helping us well keep up the good job. lol ya'll hear about arjun the jedi correspondet was killed bylike a a bh with 2 other's lol pretty sad when they screen shoot it



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