Pikeman Archive

Thread: Hanging On...

Master_Raa
Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:37 pm
#1

Ive been a pikeman for a few months now and ive been very happy killing stuff in style but lately ive felt that everything outdoes us..


Fencer in Pvp

Swordsman in PVE

TKA has its defence factors


ive just started to feel that is it really worth continueing especially with the lack of attacks like a headhit.. i mean when i go out with guildies to kill stuff i cant attack the same thing as them(mind), when i duel with guildies i cant attack the most vunerable stat (mind) and i cant tank very well as block is pathetic and the defenses are low. The only thing i feel i can do well is attack targets at the same time but still feel that isnt as useful as many make it out to be..


is it worth staying on, i mean is it expected to change at all so we are better equiped or is it worth me looking into another proffesion.


I really did want to stay a long term pikeman but these things have made me feel much more saddened when playing and im sorry if these facts anger neone and im sure ill get flamed saying we can be just as good with the right investment but Dots on lances i feel just arent as effective as people make it out to be, my highest a 240 strength mind VL still doesnt allow me to win.



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GreatReorx
Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:11 pm
#2






Master_Raa wrote:

Ive been a pikeman for a few months now and ive been very happy killing stuff in style but lately ive felt that everything outdoes us..


Fencer in Pvp

Swordsman in PVE

TKA has its defence factors


ive just started to feel that is it really worth continueing especially with the lack of attacks like a headhit.. i mean when i go out with guildies to kill stuff i cant attack the same thing as them(mind), when i duel with guildies i cant attack the most vunerable stat (mind) and i cant tank very well as block is pathetic and the defenses are low. The only thing i feel i can do well is attack targets at the same time but still feel that isnt as useful as many make it out to be..


is it worth staying on, i mean is it expected to change at all so we are better equiped or is it worth me looking into another proffesion.


I really did want to stay a long term pikeman but these things have made me feel much more saddened when playing and im sorry if these facts anger neone and im sure ill get flamed saying we can be just as good with the right investment but Dots on lances i feel just arent as effective as people make it out to be, my highest a 240 strength mind VL still doesnt allow me to win.







1) fencer target health - what a joke


2) swordsman are not better by a long shot. I wasHS b4 i was pike and you cant compare. get a uber ackley Powerhammer and your still only hittinwith a750 max dmg hammer. thats at 5.4 spd as well!!. Ive got a 900dmg LVA and am far better than what i was with HS. If you dont have a weapon this good a suggest savin your lollipops till you can buy one off the forums. Granted HS was good for Elders and pike cant really do much againt them. But now elders a pretty much untouchable for a melee class.


3) tka has good defence that is true but whip out your%80 kin armour and thr goes their effectiveness in PVP


To answer your question in my opinion Pike is the best melee class. I dont care if i rely on looted weapons coz its all part of the game. When the comp nerf comes in pike will be even better with the high dmg weapons. Stick it out and if we get screwed in the patch then both you and i will take the leap of faith and follow the rest of the sheep with Rifle/Cm




Reorx Acku
*The Friendly Fish*
SwordFish/MasterMofo
JLG88
Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:31 pm
#3






GreatReorx wrote:





Master_Raa wrote:

Ive been a pikeman for a few months now and ive been very happy killing stuff in style but lately ive felt that everything outdoes us..


Fencer in Pvp

Swordsman in PVE

TKA has its defence factors


ive just started to feel that is it really worth continueing especially with the lack of attacks like a headhit.. i mean when i go out with guildies to kill stuff i cant attack the same thing as them(mind), when i duel with guildies i cant attack the most vunerable stat (mind) and i cant tank very well as block is pathetic and the defenses are low. The only thing i feel i can do well is attack targets at the same time but still feel that isnt as useful as many make it out to be..


is it worth staying on, i mean is it expected to change at all so we are better equiped or is it worth me looking into another proffesion.


I really did want to stay a long term pikeman but these things have made me feel much more saddened when playing and im sorry if these facts anger neone and im sure ill get flamed saying we can be just as good with the right investment but Dots on lances i feel just arent as effective as people make it out to be, my highest a 240 strength mind VL still doesnt allow me to win.







1) fencer target health - what a joke


2) swordsman are not better by a long shot. I wasHS b4 i was pike and you cant compare. get a uber ackley Powerhammer and your still only hittinwith a750 max dmg hammer. thats at 5.4 spd as well!!. Ive got a 900dmg LVA and am far better than what i was with HS. If you dont have a weapon this good a suggest savin your lollipops till you can buy one off the forums. Granted HS was good for Elders and pike cant really do much againt them. But now elders a pretty much untouchable for a melee class.


3) tka has good defence that is true but whip out your%80 kin armour and thr goes their effectiveness in PVP


To answer your question in my opinion Pike is the best melee class. I dont care if i rely on looted weapons coz its all part of the game. When the comp nerf comes in pike will be even better with the high dmg weapons. Stick it out and if we get screwed in the patch then both you and i will take the leap of faith and follow the rest of the sheep with Rifle/Cm







erm.....guess what? 1k + ph ARE possible and if you have no xtra crap helping w/ ur profession HS is much better by a longshot....



ULTRA- !!!!!
GreatReorx
Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:53 pm
#4






JLG88 wrote:





GreatReorx wrote:





Master_Raa wrote:

Ive been a pikeman for a few months now and ive been very happy killing stuff in style but lately ive felt that everything outdoes us..


Fencer in Pvp

Swordsman in PVE

TKA has its defence factors


ive just started to feel that is it really worth continueing especially with the lack of attacks like a headhit.. i mean when i go out with guildies to kill stuff i cant attack the same thing as them(mind), when i duel with guildies i cant attack the most vunerable stat (mind) and i cant tank very well as block is pathetic and the defenses are low. The only thing i feel i can do well is attack targets at the same time but still feel that isnt as useful as many make it out to be..


is it worth staying on, i mean is it expected to change at all so we are better equiped or is it worth me looking into another proffesion.


I really did want to stay a long term pikeman but these things have made me feel much more saddened when playing and im sorry if these facts anger neone and im sure ill get flamed saying we can be just as good with the right investment but Dots on lances i feel just arent as effective as people make it out to be, my highest a 240 strength mind VL still doesnt allow me to win.







1) fencer target health - what a joke


2) swordsman are not better by a long shot. I wasHS b4 i was pike and you cant compare. get a uber ackley Powerhammer and your still only hittinwith a750 max dmg hammer. thats at 5.4 spd as well!!. Ive got a 900dmg LVA and am far better than what i was with HS. If you dont have a weapon this good a suggest savin your lollipops till you can buy one off the forums. Granted HS was good for Elders and pike cant really do much againt them. But now elders a pretty much untouchable for a melee class.


3) tka has good defence that is true but whip out your%80 kin armour and thr goes their effectiveness in PVP


To answer your question in my opinion Pike is the best melee class. I dont care if i rely on looted weapons coz its all part of the game. When the comp nerf comes in pike will be even better with the high dmg weapons. Stick it out and if we get screwed in the patch then both you and i will take the leap of faith and follow the rest of the sheep with Rifle/Cm







erm.....guess what? 1k + ph ARE possible and if you have no xtra crap helping w/ ur profession HS is much better by a longshot....






"no extra crap" isnt the whole point the fact the Pike does have "xtra crap". Also i have never seen any powerhammer above 1000 that wasnt a exceptional. Blow for Blow with Pikes weapons to HS we own.

Message Edited by GreatReorx on 08-09-2004 06:58 PM



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*The Friendly Fish*
SwordFish/MasterMofo
SeveronDarkstar
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:02 pm
#5

Pikeman arn't bad at PvP if you know what you're doing. Friend just kicked my butt, she's a master Pikeman, she used only a minor health DoT pike, and was naked (no speed tapes, etc)


She rocks....just gotta master the tactics man, master the tactics.
JLG88
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:30 pm
#6






GreatReorx wrote:






JLG88 wrote:





GreatReorx wrote:





Master_Raa wrote:

Ive been a pikeman for a few months now and ive been very happy killing stuff in style but lately ive felt that everything outdoes us..


Fencer in Pvp

Swordsman in PVE

TKA has its defence factors


ive just started to feel that is it really worth continueing especially with the lack of attacks like a headhit.. i mean when i go out with guildies to kill stuff i cant attack the same thing as them(mind), when i duel with guildies i cant attack the most vunerable stat (mind) and i cant tank very well as block is pathetic and the defenses are low. The only thing i feel i can do well is attack targets at the same time but still feel that isnt as useful as many make it out to be..


is it worth staying on, i mean is it expected to change at all so we are better equiped or is it worth me looking into another proffesion.


I really did want to stay a long term pikeman but these things have made me feel much more saddened when playing and im sorry if these facts anger neone and im sure ill get flamed saying we can be just as good with the right investment but Dots on lances i feel just arent as effective as people make it out to be, my highest a 240 strength mind VL still doesnt allow me to win.







1) fencer target health - what a joke


2) swordsman are not better by a long shot. I wasHS b4 i was pike and you cant compare. get a uber ackley Powerhammer and your still only hittinwith a750 max dmg hammer. thats at 5.4 spd as well!!. Ive got a 900dmg LVA and am far better than what i was with HS. If you dont have a weapon this good a suggest savin your lollipops till you can buy one off the forums. Granted HS was good for Elders and pike cant really do much againt them. But now elders a pretty much untouchable for a melee class.


3) tka has good defence that is true but whip out your%80 kin armour and thr goes their effectiveness in PVP


To answer your question in my opinion Pike is the best melee class. I dont care if i rely on looted weapons coz its all part of the game. When the comp nerf comes in pike will be even better with the high dmg weapons. Stick it out and if we get screwed in the patch then both you and i will take the leap of faith and follow the rest of the sheep with Rifle/Cm







erm.....guess what? 1k + ph ARE possible and if you have no xtra crap helping w/ ur profession HS is much better by a longshot....






"no extra crap" isnt the whole point the fact the Pike does have "xtra crap". Also i have never seen any powerhammer above 1000 that wasnt a exceptional. Blow for Blow with Pikes weapons to HS we own.

Message Edited by GreatReorx on 08-09-2004 06:58 PM



i have seen a ph above 1k dmg that wasn't exceptional, and if you say if it can't be exceptional, thats xtra, so why can't they use it to pwn in damage if we can? if ppl loot uber powerhammers they are generally better, and they can get ackley bones to enhance them, and also if you're comparing the two professions on a 1 : 1 bases w/ no xtra speed, looted weaponry, 2h swords WILL always be better




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GreatReorx
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:55 pm
#7






JLG88 wrote:





GreatReorx wrote:






JLG88 wrote:





GreatReorx wrote:





Master_Raa wrote:

Ive been a pikeman for a few months now and ive been very happy killing stuff in style but lately ive felt that everything outdoes us..


Fencer in Pvp

Swordsman in PVE

TKA has its defence factors


ive just started to feel that is it really worth continueing especially with the lack of attacks like a headhit.. i mean when i go out with guildies to kill stuff i cant attack the same thing as them(mind), when i duel with guildies i cant attack the most vunerable stat (mind) and i cant tank very well as block is pathetic and the defenses are low. The only thing i feel i can do well is attack targets at the same time but still feel that isnt as useful as many make it out to be..


is it worth staying on, i mean is it expected to change at all so we are better equiped or is it worth me looking into another proffesion.


I really did want to stay a long term pikeman but these things have made me feel much more saddened when playing and im sorry if these facts anger neone and im sure ill get flamed saying we can be just as good with the right investment but Dots on lances i feel just arent as effective as people make it out to be, my highest a 240 strength mind VL still doesnt allow me to win.







1) fencer target health - what a joke


2) swordsman are not better by a long shot. I wasHS b4 i was pike and you cant compare. get a uber ackley Powerhammer and your still only hittinwith a750 max dmg hammer. thats at 5.4 spd as well!!. Ive got a 900dmg LVA and am far better than what i was with HS. If you dont have a weapon this good a suggest savin your lollipops till you can buy one off the forums. Granted HS was good for Elders and pike cant really do much againt them. But now elders a pretty much untouchable for a melee class.


3) tka has good defence that is true but whip out your%80 kin armour and thr goes their effectiveness in PVP


To answer your question in my opinion Pike is the best melee class. I dont care if i rely on looted weapons coz its all part of the game. When the comp nerf comes in pike will be even better with the high dmg weapons. Stick it out and if we get screwed in the patch then both you and i will take the leap of faith and follow the rest of the sheep with Rifle/Cm







erm.....guess what? 1k + ph ARE possible and if you have no xtra crap helping w/ ur profession HS is much better by a longshot....






"no extra crap" isnt the whole point the fact the Pike does have "xtra crap". Also i have never seen any powerhammer above 1000 that wasnt a exceptional. Blow for Blow with Pikes weapons to HS we own.

Message Edited by GreatReorx on 08-09-2004 06:58 PM



i have seen a ph above 1k dmg that wasn't exceptional, and if you say if it can't be exceptional, thats xtra, so why can't they use it to pwn in damage if we can? if ppl loot uber powerhammers they are generally better, and they can get ackley bones to enhance them, and also if you're comparing the two professions on a 1 : 1 bases w/ no xtra speed, looted weaponry, 2h swords WILL always be better







RRAAAAAAWWWWW. dont argue!! seriously tho can you honestly tell me thr is more chance of looting a 1000+ dmg powerhammer than thr is a LVA? if you have seen 1000+ PH's (which i havnt outside of exceptionals) floating round the trade forums then ithink i might jump over to your server.


BTW this quote is gettin way to long



Reorx Acku
*The Friendly Fish*
SwordFish/MasterMofo
annelid0
Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:17 pm
#8

These are always the stupidest arguments...

A pikeman with a 1600 damage LVA, +25 speed, +25 accuracy, 90% composite armor, janta blood buffs, mind buffs, TKA and fencer defenses stacked, and several items of food is more powerful than an unbuffed naked swordsman/merchant using a power hammer he found on the bazaar.

Whoopdy **edit**ing doo.

The swordsman class is more powerful than the pikeman class in PvE, period.



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GreatReorx
Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:24 pm
#9






annelid0 wrote:
These are always the stupidest arguments...

A pikeman with a 1600 damage LVA, +25 speed, +25 accuracy, 90% composite armor, janta blood buffs, mind buffs, TKA and fencer defenses stacked, and several items of food is more powerful than an unbuffed naked swordsman/merchant using a power hammer he found on the bazaar.

Whoopdy **edit**ing doo.

The swordsman class is more powerful than the pikeman class in PvE, period.





thats not what this arguement is about. Class for Class you cant compare pike and sword coz everyone knows HS wins everytime. But the availabiltiy to uber dmg weapons, strong dots and the ease of finding SEA's cant be overlooked. Taking this into account the rolls reverse and Pike ends up beating sword in just about every aspect of the game.



Reorx Acku
*The Friendly Fish*
SwordFish/MasterMofo
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