Pikeman Archive

HELLO pikeman, i am wondering if there are any +s to pikeman , right now i have been working on unarmed i am close to TKA novice BUT i cant get the staff out of my head. i was going to pick up the staff at first but i read the things here and got scared away from it,so i went to the other type of melee i like.every time i look at my guy , i think to my self"man he looks cool but hes missing some thing ,hmm if he had a staff ..........."so please help me here .i just want to know what the speed is like at master pike and what kinda dmg they do, and if block ever works.also can they solo at all? what if it was a master pike/ ch? please any kinda info would be nice thanks for your time. o also the whole rare pikeman thing makes me want to be one more,sorry had to throw that in

should i just stay on the path to TKM then ?

fencers are more gangster but tk is cool

dont do pikemen they're broke

well if any one can ,can u please answer the quetion i asked i would still like to know

My opinion is that right now we are kindof broken, I'm not dropping my pikeman skills yet, I have hopes that we will be fixed.

Our theoretical plusses: (NB: these are what we are supposed to do and be good at, not necessarily how things are right now.)

Slow swings but high damage, stun, knockdown, and a bleed attack.

Good crowd control attacks, several multiple target attacks, multiple target knockdown, multiple target stun. I have to say that when it work it is a beautiful thing to see 4 npcs fall down around you.

IMO some of the best looking moves in the game and a great "ching" sound when we hit with a LVA.

Defense, as we go up the defense tree, against knockdown, stun, dizzy and an ability to block.

Now for reality:

As you have probably already seen from reading these boards we have horrible accuracy, and with a slow hit and high HAM costs this can be deadly (to us, not to what we're fighting). Personally, I have yet to see myself block, if I ever have, I missed it.

Since the knockdown changes I have barely used KD because I either miss and still have a delay before I can hit again, or even if I do knockdown my target by the time I can swing again it is standing up and hitting me.

Many, many pikeman also have high, if not master, medic skills and CH skills to heal themselves during fights and to make up for lack of damage output.

Additionally, there is the kiting problem common to all melee, where we just can't catch people running away from us shooting our brains out, or, in PvE, have to chase creatures all over the place to hit them.

I am optimistic that pikemen will be fixed (no ETA I know of, if anyone has seen anythign give a yell, but I'm guessing months), and would say that if you really like polearms, well, do what makes you happy playing. I tried switching to ranged and just kept missing my pike, so I'm sticking it out, for now, albeit missing WITH my pike. That said, until changes are made you will be weaker than just about any other combat class, take more damage, do less damage, and spend more time incap if you take up pikeman, but in the long run I hope we are fixed.

When the devs stated profesion problems in some of their recent posts, they said... We know pikeman sucks right now and we are going to work on it after we get the new tank move up. And we were like the first on the list for actual combat professions. So we have hope. The Devs saw how much SSurfer was trying to work with them and us pikemen. They have respected that and not given him the boot like so many other coorispondents have. That is why we are near the top of the pile. We have hope. Hang in there. Mounts are coming soon!!

man i think i am going pike , i was going to stick with unarmed but i had to pick my lance back up and go at it again . i like the idea of using a staff of some sort . i know it will probly will be along hard raod but hey if i take the short one what will ibe doing then? (i know theres alot more to do but shhh dont tell me) and i i think its wierd that they are slowing pikes down , i mean hasnt any one seen a movie were they use a staff u can barly see the dang thing its going so fast, and i think pikes should be able to block almost anymelee attak most of the time.to me thats the 2 bigest things behind a staff is speed and defences but o well i guess as long as they are being fix so ill shut up about that. o and so i take it pikes moves dont work at all like there supose to ? cause i was reading them and they seemed pretty tight, but hey what do i know i am just polearm 2. o and how many pikes are there out there?