Pikeman Archive

I have had Master Pikeman for 3 months

I made Tera Kasi Master about 2 months ago.

I haven't used my pike in about one month and 4 weeks.

When I first made TKM managing the HAM compared to pikeman was very, very easy. (I laughed the difference was so ridoculous)

I have been waiting all of these months for some kind of "fix", "tweak" towards the Pikeman class. If it doesn't happen within the next big patch, I will be dropping Pikeman for good! (With a smile)

I honestly can't remember when I actually hit something with the pikeman KD. (I'll see if I can now and then.)

For being masters of ranged/defense maneuvers in my opionon compared to all other melee classes and my knowledge now of the other classes, PIKEMAN is horrible!!

When I use it, I am useless and fall faster than an expert Marksman. (Not Joking)

BBOOOO

don't drop pikeman

I'd yell at him, but I'm migrating into TKA as well. I simply can't live with how broken we are while at the same time the devs making comments abuut how balance is not a big concern (See Q3POs Warcry interview). Couple that with the fact that for months we've been ignored and swept under the rug while they allow something stupidly easy to get like CH to take the traditional role of melee and then allow them toGIVE THAT ABILITY TO ANYONE, and it's no wonder people treat our class like the plague. Grats SOE, you've totally ruined 1/2 of your advanced combat classes. *golf clap*

Even as I became a Master Pikeman two days ago, my journey up unarmed has begun.

I love being a Pikeman, but really, I don't see improvement coming for awhile.

Luckily, I won't have to drop any Pikeman skills to become a Teras Kasi Master, so I can retain some bit of originality.

i feel your pain Esquisse. ive been master pikeman for about a month now.. and i just recently started moving up the TK meditation tree. after playing TK for the last week or so im considering dropping some of my master CH skill points to master TK as well. regardless i wont drop pikeman for the slim hope still exists in my mind that they will fix some of our issues...

I have been making the migration myself to TKA. There are a few things to remember though.

1) TKA utterly blows against anything with high kinetic resistance and/or medium+ armor

2)Keepyour bleeds from the pikeman profession. I would say this is about one of the only things they haven't messed up with the Pikeman profession. Action bleeds, though pretty minor for PvP, totally rock for PvE fighting. Add these into the mix for TKA, and you are doing some serious hurt to whatever you are fighting. Also, pikeman have the VL for usage against those mobs with low electrical resistance.

3) Range is close, but not the same for both professions. Pikeman still have a slight edge over TKA with respect to range, which actually does make a difference in certain circumstances. At least TKAs get quite a bit more toughness and defense to actually be able to handle those problems that crop up when you actually do get hit.

Going from Pikeman ->TKA is like moving from a turtle to a chipmunk on speed. About half as much damage on regular hits, but about 4x as fast. You can spam special attacks very, very quickly too. Pikeman still has its uses though and I really hated to give up anything from the pikeman tree, especially the +speed.

Chuu'toii

I've yet to check out out dmg/ham/speed on test center, but with the new accuracy modifiers, the new tank move (center of balance or whatnot)the additionsto block, I think pikeman was just given a significant improvement! (These changes are currently on test center only)

Sad story.

A friend of mine got unarmed 4. I dueled him. I am 1142 currently in pike. Guess who one? Not the pikeman. We need help.

It's worse now too. Check out my post called *FINAL* UPDATE on the Teras Kasi profession forum and youll understand

We're getting it from behind with our own LVA's.

I agree totally with you guys thatthey SERIOUSLY need to fix all the melee classes to be more equal. I play a TK and am considering bringin up some more melee skills and the balancing of them needs to be adressed something fierce. There are alot of new TK changes coming out and i have yet to see any marginal differences to the other melee classes (which i cuold be wrong there but like i said i havent personally seen anything in a while) I hope you guys get the respect you deserve soon

Thanks for your responses and insights.

Yeah, I am still waiting for the next "big" patch Ijust dontwant to throw pikeman out the window just like that, without any trial and error. After reading some of your comments I agree mostly with all of while taking into consideration that I am a "Human" pikeman and after further investigation the one wookie pikeman I know is doing alot better than Idid at leveling because of his strength. (Although I believe it really helps him for defensive, given our conversation)

Yeah although some of you mentioned that the natural law of averages in game given the power versus speed of pikeman and TK should be a difference of class,in reality I dont think it is, I have done some serious time trial in the past few weeks, please listen. (* hint *hint devs....)

Within a 10-20 second timeframe.

My master Tera Kasi vs. master Pikeman skill.(same target experiments). Skills representing themselves for offensive/deffensive.

Kamu. Lizard: KD with PKM. Out of 10 I hit 2.

KD with TKM. out of 10 I hit 8.

Nightsister: Stun with PKM out of 10,3.

Stun with TKM out of 10, 6

PlainsTuskCat: Intimidate (speed variable) PKM out of 10 4 (and I would have died if not for TK buff)

TKM out of 10,9

PvP: PKM KD out of 10, 0

TKM out of 10,7 (also against masters for both classes)

...the list can go on and on. The difference is out of context with the boundries of "Master" class. I really have no drive to keep my pikeman skill what so ever but, I shall wait. This list of course is dealing with pretty high end opponents yet, its really like this with everything that I have tested it against, give or a take some pikeman successes against lower, much lower opponents.

Really DEVS, I am not barking at the tree for no reason nor am I really concerned in that way(mad), but wow....something I think should be workshopped with this class. The comparison status for "mastery" level of pikeman to all others I think is very null, granted I was exicted when I first achieved it but after the kd change my outlook changed so did my survivability rate in the field.

I try not to promote these ideas for no real good reason at all nor am I "mad" in a direct sense, but just a litte disappointed. I am waiting for the change, really I am.

Ok bye all. Be back one day.

Master Scout/Pikeman/TeraKasi *Bria*

wow, all these people and "Teras Kasi, here I come!" responses are frightening. I was considering switching to PKM cause they're just so much cooler and have that diversity in weapon types (peh!) but if you consider it, TK's were considered Jedi killers... lol p