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Thread: polearm hit 2 = crap?
this move seems to cause me to attack slowly because of the long animation sequence, making a fast weapon as slow as a slow one . it could just be my perception but this really seems to be the case, and it doesn't hit for enough damage to justify the speed.
it's hard going from TKA to pikeman (I'm both now), the pike misses half the time and hits for 1000-1300 (with a max damage of 497 on the LVA) and then the TKA hits for 1000-2000 very very fast and never misses (and no my TKA isn't master, it's only 2122).
at what point will my polearm damage become respectable? before master I hope?
Something's not quite right if you're only hitting for 1000-1300 with a 497 LVA using ph2. If you're talking autoattack, then you're doing ok. What are you fighting to get these numbers for the LVA and TKA? I remember I averaged about 1.5k in general using ph2 and a 360 max dmg LVA. Pike damage is good, it should arguably be better (see 3x vs. 4x multipliers for hit3 discussions), but as far as single strikes go, pike is much more powerful than TKA. DPS is a different story because of the accuracy and speed differences.
As for the animations, all pike specials have a fairly lengthy time modifier attached to them, which slows down even, as you said, a fast weapon.
antares
master pikeman
When i do polearm hit 2, even before the animation is done i hit them again, it just doesnt show an animation for it.
BigTrizzle wrote:
pikeman = crap
sorry guys, i'm leaving your forum now
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
...a door can't hit something that isn't there /addignore BigTrizzle
Legwand wrote:
BigTrizzle wrote:
pikeman = crap
sorry guys, i'm leaving your forum now
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
ok, answer me this, pikemen...
is there any move in the pikeman tree that singularly does as much or more damage in a swing than polearm hit 2 before polearm hit 3?
stop looking at the action on your screen and start looking at your combat spam.
The action on the screen is eyecandy the action in your combat spam is what's really happening.
It's taking "too long" because you don't have much speed mods yet and the delay with the special is what's kicking in.
Once you get stances IV you will notice that even while your toon is still doing the hit animation 3-4 more regular attacks have gone through your combat spam window because it ignores what's happening on the screen and goes by the combat rules of delays and speed mods etc.
What are your current stats with pikeman? The polearms are pretty slow weapons (4.5 delay with the LVA and 4.0 with the VL) and without at least stances II for the +15 to speed you aren't attacking that fast.
Yep... The animation sequency has nothing to do with the actual damage. If you have stances 4 and a speed sliced lvl, you'll hit 2 or 3 times before that animation is complete.
As a swordsman, most of our moves are dragged out in animation. In fact mindhit3 is a lengthy animation that (as a master w/ 2.9sec cleaver) I perform 2 mindhit3's in the amount of time the animation is performed. Watch the text scripting for your combat text window, I rely more on that then what I see on the screen.
As far as the pikeman complaints of leghit2 being crap... the 'awesome' 2handhit3, yea it is a pos, 2handhit2 has let me hit with my Power Hammer up to 7500, but with 2handhit3, I have yet to break 5500. Yet its a more powerful move and it eats the crap out of my health..stupid ham reqs...So as a holo slave to pikeman do not feel as though your own profession is messed up.. but you guys still have horrible accuracy for weapons, save for my Power Hammer, all my 2hand swords are +0 or better for accuracy, I don't see why the Devs are so rude to Pikeman, .. I mean -47 accuracy and I am standing in front of him>??? I have begun to understand why you say "we damage all the air around our target".. But I shall continue and perseveir(SP?) I mean why not, all I have to do is get the NS vibro motor and I can use my scroll and get my new weapon of destruction that maybe a good thing for pvp.. lol or I will just pull out the cleaver again and start scalping ppl... at least it worx...