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Thread: Pikeman and PvP

teamdoa
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:41 am
#1

Nice one, this will help me loads. I am now on a mission to become a non-holo Master Pikeman...finding it fun so far.



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daymeeuhn
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:15 am
#2

If you dont have DOT weapons, youre prob gonna suck. -lol-



Food for thought.





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Wielder of the Sacred Pike
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teamdoa
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:34 am
#3

oh...i have DOT weapons....been saving em up for months, as well as loads of skill tapes etc..muahaha



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Braglor
Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:44 am
#4






Gunman21 wrote:


things you can do to help make your experience as a pikeman better in pvp.




  • If going up against ranged, don't be afraid to use the surroundings to hide away from the shots. I've found a wall to be just as efficient as the best armors out there. Tactic: let them come to you.

  • Use the correct armor against the correct target. If a bountyhunter, go acid, if a tkm go kinetic, etc...

  • Don't talk trash to people you've incapacitated or deathblowed. Realize this: the Fight is over

  • If KD/Dizzied and you got the Healstate skill; make a macro: /healstate; /stand; /macro <macroname>;

  • If KD/Dizzied and you got WarCry; make a macro: /warcry; /stand; /macro <macroname>;

  • Against any CMs out there, the trick is: warcry, warcry, warcry...

  • There is no shame in bursting if it means you will survive and your target will not.

  • Don't forget Equillibirum if you're a zabrak. As most ppl will focus on one HAM pool to bring you down with, this skill is most useful to pop an surprice heal.

  • Use grouptef all the time, it's the Rebel way and you know you can't help yourself

Hummm... Can't think of anything else at the moment
bmeenan
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:33 am
#5


Ugh, I missed this post before posting about about some pvp tactics. Here's a copy of what I said for the thread.


"I think the key to PvP tactics, first and foremost, is practice, practice, practice. It's really just a matter of logging time in battle against others. First few fightsyou get owned because of nerves and the like. I'm not great at PvP but I get better with every fight. Here's my quick list for consideration...


1. Prepare mind by eating food and spice. With some brandy and muon you can have all three mind stats at 1000 or 2000+.


2. Buffed of course.


3. Don't spam specials right away. Get in to battle, think about your next 2 to 3 moves, do them, and then wait a little bit to decide what's best next. Remember that as pikeman we're great tanks and can take the hits. I've noticing when I do die that it takes even the uber defensing stacking pvp experts types LONGER to kill pikeman then most others.


4. The defense against knockdown food has worked wonders for me in the last few battles.


5. It seems in most melee fights, it's all about who lands dizzy first. Usually, I'll throw a dizzy as soon as I'm within range and then start working to knock them down. Once they're down, just start chipping away at their ham with the most powerful move we can throw (for me, I use polearmHit3.)


6. I'm not too worried about weapon speed in PvP. I use a really nice standard LVA that has a good damage slice.


7. Combat Medics - Ok, these guys are tough but here's the best solution I've found. If you have maxed out mind and get hit with poison and desease you probably have about 20 seconds max before you're dead. If it happens, you'll probably lose, but before you go down, use the tab key to find where that CM is and burst run right towards them. Close the gap, entirely, and knock them down on their CM arse and hit them good. You may get lucky and take them down or land a dizzy which will keep them busy and allow your friends to either escape or finish the job. Plus it freaks them out to see a pikeman runnning at them."


Rayner


Master Pikeman


Message Edited by bmeenan on 02-25-2004 08:34 AM




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Braglor
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:57 am
#6






bmeenan wrote:



If it happens, you'll probably lose, but before you go down, use the tab key to find where that CM is and burst run right towards them.


...it freaks them out to see a pikeman runnning at them.



hahaha, yeah /agree

Envoy3113
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:00 am
#7

Thats true. You can almost see the panic on their face as you burst to em with the LVA out. Not that I've ever been able to finish a job but it does freak out the ones that are not solidly combat trained.



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Gunman21
Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:20 pm
#8

I'm going to work on a guide to Pikeman and pvp. It will cover best moves, combat macros, and things you can do to help make your experience as a pikeman better in pvp.


If you have quick and easy suggestions for the guide, post them here


Thanks




Aidelon Kejaci
Legends Among Warriors

Former pikeman correspondent December 2003 - August 2005.

R.I.P. Pikeman!

OutbackWookiee
Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:56 pm
#9



  • Clone and insure first.

  • Always buff

  • Different types of weapons (LVA for the composite guys and VL for theubese guys)and armor (Kinetic ubese for the melee guys, comp for the ranged guys and a stun layered set for the riflemen if you can afford it)

  • Macros to switch between the weapons and armor

  • Use the DOT lances if you have them

  • Food (canape) and drink (brandy .. lots of it) for the mind pools

  • Tabbing to target then hit auto follow right away

  • Hit COB just before the fight starts (or better yet put cob on a looping macro to reapply it every 30 seconds or so)

  • If they are ranged opponents use lunge to kd (lunge 2 if you have master brawler) and attack the kiters

  • Spin attack 2 to dizzy then KD then warcry (if you can land all three ... woot). Reapply spin attack to felled opponents

  • Use pixies and muons only if you have to (but have some on hand) as the downer will mess you up

  • DO NOT USE PH3 ON DOWNED OPPONENTS

  • Don't incap camp (its not cool) or grief. If your incap camping to save a base, don't talk trash to a downed opponent

  • Don't send nasty /tells to people who kill you

  • Never, never, ever, ever group tef. It just plain sucks

Theres a bunch. Hope this helps.




LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


OutbackWookiee
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:55 pm
#10







Braglor wrote:


Use grouptef all the time, it's the Rebel way and you know you can't help yourself






Braglor, I'm now going to create an uber elite character on Radiant. I'm going to name him Braglor'sBane. I'm going to grind him 23 hours a day (one hour break for sex). I'm going to make him the most uberest stacker of them all with TK/Fencer/Rifleman/Pistoleer/Smuggler/CM skills. After several weeks of grinding, I'm going to come and find you. Then I'm going to follow you everywhere and group tef you constantly into submission.


After several weeks of this torture, you will finally understand the error of your ways.


I'm sorry it had to come to this but you brought this upon yourself. You better say your goodbyes to all your friends because you will be spending all your time at the cloning facility.


Fear me!!!



LegwandLongfellow
MasterPikeman/Brawler
TKA/Fencer/HeavySwordsman
There'sabigblackholegonnaeatmeupsomeday
Somedayfadesaway,likeamemory


spoiledbrat
Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:33 am
#11



As a Master TKA I would like to share some hints, because I am quite successful in PvP (I roleplay this professionand will switch soon to Pikeman because the millions and millions of TKAs are really getting on my nerves):


First of all you Pikeman should buff your defense vs. knockdown (Correlian Brandy gives you a good boost), you guys have a fairly low defense vs KD.


If you´re fighting against a TKA as a Pikeman aim for his action pool! Blind and Stun hits are good too, we TKAs have a low defense against that and against knockdown. So Blind, Stun and knockdown and hit our action pool .


If you´re fighting against a Fencer, forgeta knockdown move, waste of your energy because they have a pretty high defense against it, instead intimidate them and dont do many specials, let them waste their energy on you and then hit their spent pool!


Now Swordsmen, I havent had many engagements with them so I cant give you any real good tips here, as soon as I have experimented with that I will post it too





Message Edited by spoiledbrat on 02-26-2004 12:40 PM



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Ssedi
Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:21 am
#12






spoiledbrat wrote:



As a Master TKA I would like to share some hints, because I am quite successful in PvP (I roleplay this professionand will switch soon to Pikeman because the millions and millions of TKAs are really getting on my nerves):


First of all you Pikeman should buff your defense vs. knockdown (Correlian Brandy gives you a good boost), you guys have a fairly low defense vs KD.


If you´re fighting against a TKA as a Pikeman aim for his action pool! Blind and Stun hits are good too, we TKAs have a low defense against that and against knockdown. So Blind, Stun and knockdown and hit our action pool .


If you´re fighting against a Fencer, forgeta knockdown move, waste of your energy because they have a pretty high defense against it, instead intimidate them and dont do many specials, let them waste their energy on you and then hit their spent pool!


Now Swordsmen, I havent had many engagements with them so I cant give you any real good tips here, as soon as I have experimented with that I will post it too






Message Edited by spoiledbrat on 02-26-2004 12:40 PM





Good tips on fighting unbuffed opponents. But if they are buffed going for anything but the mind pool is a waste of time(we dont get a mind pool attack either). I usually start off with my mind poision lance(250 a tick WOOT!) and then just tank them out by warcrying, intemidateing, and beating them over the head with my pole.



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GabrielsSword
Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:31 pm
#13

Nice ideas guys



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