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Thread: Pikeman vs Swordsman vs Fencer vs TKM
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Bossman505
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:41 am
#1
I am currently Master Doctor, CM 3-4-0-4 and Rifleman 2-1-0-0.
But I really feel like moving on to a melee profession. How does Pikeman compare to Swordsman, TKM and Fencer.
Thanks
antares_Kauri
Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:06 am
#2
- Pikeman vs. Fencer: PvE oriented vs. PvP oriented. Pike has higher damage capabilities, fencer has much higher defensive capabilities. The stun baton makes fencer good for PvP in general, for the time being. Some will argue Pike has more DoTs for PvP, this is a personal issue if you want to rely on looted DoT weapons or not. Some of the DoTs you can get are devastating in PvP. Pike has cooler animations and weapons.
- Pikeman vs. Swordsman: Close. Both low on defenses, though swordsman has nearly 2x the toughness. Both high on damage output and area attacks. Swordsman has the advantage in that the Power Hammer is more damaging than the LVA, and is blast damage which is the best PvE damage type to have. Swordsmen can solo things Pikemen cannot because of this. Swordsman can also target the mind, which is currently a large advantage. Pikeman has cooler animations and faster weapons, although that last point is moot once you have speed attachments. In terms of area attacks, swordsman has more, but pikeman's are arguably more useful, i.e. area KD vs area posture change.
- Pikeman vs. TKA: TKA has higher dps in most situations up to medium armor ratings (unless you have speed attachments, then Pike wins here), the ability to cure poisons, disease, bleeds, boost stats, heal wounds, get up from incap. TKA has the highest toughness of all professions, accompanied with high melee/ranged defenses, trumping Pike easily in terms of defenses. TKA is at the speed cap with everything at master automatically, TKA is hardly affected by melee mitigation at all. Pikeman has higher potential damage output, higher armor piercing abilities, cooler animations. TKA is limited to one damage type currently, Pikeman has three.
Here is a comparison of the defensive stats for the melee professions.
antares
master pikeman
- Pikeman vs. Swordsman: Close. Both low on defenses, though swordsman has nearly 2x the toughness. Both high on damage output and area attacks. Swordsman has the advantage in that the Power Hammer is more damaging than the LVA, and is blast damage which is the best PvE damage type to have. Swordsmen can solo things Pikemen cannot because of this. Swordsman can also target the mind, which is currently a large advantage. Pikeman has cooler animations and faster weapons, although that last point is moot once you have speed attachments. In terms of area attacks, swordsman has more, but pikeman's are arguably more useful, i.e. area KD vs area posture change.
- Pikeman vs. TKA: TKA has higher dps in most situations up to medium armor ratings (unless you have speed attachments, then Pike wins here), the ability to cure poisons, disease, bleeds, boost stats, heal wounds, get up from incap. TKA has the highest toughness of all professions, accompanied with high melee/ranged defenses, trumping Pike easily in terms of defenses. TKA is at the speed cap with everything at master automatically, TKA is hardly affected by melee mitigation at all. Pikeman has higher potential damage output, higher armor piercing abilities, cooler animations. TKA is limited to one damage type currently, Pikeman has three.
Here is a comparison of the defensive stats for the melee professions.
antares
master pikeman
Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 08-26-2004 07:52 AM
Bossman505
Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:11 am
#4
Yes Antares, thanks for the post.
More information than I could have wished for !!!
HurriwanShinobi
Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:16 pm
#8
With a 4% stun layer on, fencer do almost damage either. They have good defenses thats about it imo. They really suck for PVE aswell only AP0 weapons cept for the vibroblade. Since the scatter hit 2 fix they are quite useless for anything else but evading and jumping in the air.
Swordsman are still faster with scythe than we are with a LVA.... only with attachments are we compareable. They also have more toughness than us = they have higher defenses in general. And lets not forget counterattack which is heaps better than block.
TKM is the best melee class for PVP, full stop imo. PVE they have great tanking abilities but cant do alot of damage due to AP1 weapons. We have an AP2 weapon, but need attachments to keep up.
Locs
Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:26 am
#9
Once Scatter Hit 2 is getting fixed, Fencer is gonna be absolutly useless in PvP all the will have is normal attack or health hits whilst Swordsman have Head hits (UBER im currantly a swordsman i find a 500 max damage scyth is better than any hammer and about 100x faster lol) TKM has defences and meditate and power boost and hit 3 and dizzy kd in 1 move and.......(u get the picture) Pikeman has apauling defence (like sowrdsman) so its the best to get novice medic with this porffession the Mind fire Dot is to good to be true against any proffession when stacked with two 250+ str mind poison DoTs (NO 1 CAN DO SPECIALL ATTACKS AGAINST YOU) Pikes are also awesome for 2 other reasons,.....AREA KD AND AREA DIZZY once that is happening u r doing area fire and area poison lol. aLL fencer has is defences and with DoTs on them they have no chance.
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