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Thread: CU syill another year away? According to ne TH post.... quite possible

Oberon131313
Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:46 am
#1






Viceman wrote:

Gunman21



Would you like me to post some of the past fixes and dates promised by the devs? I could if you'd like...


you got good points but it comes down to this...


BACK UP WHAT YOU SAY!! DO NOT FEED PPL BS THAT YOU WONT BACK UP, ESPCIALLY DATES!!


DEVS: We don't want a fix to go out and have it rushed and be bad when alot of people really looked forward to it and we don't want it to suck...so although it may take longer we'll do it right...


THEN DON'T FEED US UNREALISTIC GOALS AND DATES!!


YOU ARE DROWNING YOURSELF DEVS! YOU DID IT, NOt pikeman


back it up!


thank you



Dare me to post all the things the devs had said on how there gunna fix pike and datesstamps etc.. dare me baby!




and that is why they are no longer giving us dates...just sit back and chill, or leave...either way...




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Viceman
Sun Dec 12, 2004 1:41 pm
#2

Gunman21



Would you like me to post some of the past fixes and dates promised by the devs? I could if you'd like...


you got good points but it comes down to this...


BACK UP WHAT YOU SAY!! DO NOT FEED PPL BS THAT YOU WONT BACK UP, ESPCIALLY DATES!!


DEVS: We don't want a fix to go out and have it rushed and be bad when alot of people really looked forward to it and we don't want it to suck...so although it may take longer we'll do it right...


THEN DON'T FEED US UNREALISTIC GOALS AND DATES!!


YOU ARE DROWNING YOURSELF DEVS! YOU DID IT, NOt pikeman


back it up!


thank you



Dare me to post all the things the devs had said on how there gunna fix pike and datesstamps etc.. dare me baby!
Zhentarim
Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:55 am
#3

/sitback_and_chill_with_a_beer_waiting_for_CU

I've got no trouble waiting for CU becuase I have some great m8s in my guild, so playing SWG is always a laff'.

I don't trust TH or any of the devs further than I can trhow them though (Which isn't very far because I'm a skinny geek =P )



Acreon Farlighter (Euro-Chimaera)
da5in
Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:35 am
#4

I've been watching these conversations in several forums for some time now, and it occurred to me that most people don't understand the decisions that go into a software release.


Priority 1: fix broken stuff (considerations: game crash? is there a work around? how many people are affected? how hard is it to fix? how much code do we have to touch?)


Priority 2: fix annoying stuff, i.e. implement enhancements (considerations: how many people are affected? how often does the problem occur? how hard is it to fix?)


Priority 3: build cool new stuff that no one has thought of (considerations: how will it impact the game? will it attract new gamers? will it appeal to veterans? how long will it take? how much testing is involved?)


A release consists of a balance of these 3 priorities - and some negotiation between devs andthe product management team on how long everyone is willing to wait before releasing - since coders will happily code forever, until you tell them that they have to release something. (apologies to the coders in the audience - this is a bit biased by my product management experience)


As a product manager, I myself am always nervous aboutgivingout exact releasedates - because you create a release plan, code, then test - but something always goes wrong - which creates delays. Giving timeframes is a better idea - since you can set an expectation, and still have room to maneuver - if you need to change the plan.


Overall, I have been fairly happy with the releases; frequency and content - and realizing that this is a living, dynamic game, I think the dev group has been doing a pretty good job.






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