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Thread: Humanoids = frustration.

Sidearon
Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:08 pm
#1

I see a normal meatlump NPC, 300 HAM. A few hits and he goes down right? Nope, using his blaster he shoots and runs. I have him on auto follow but he won't stop running. By the time I remember to use burst run my health is too low. So, can anyone tell me how a melee is suppost to kill a ranged person if he can just run across the map blasting at you forever? This is an easy mob, and I am almost at novice pikeman yet he was still very close to killing me, I had to run from him!


It makes no sense that a skilled fighter should have to die to a noob mob because the mob can out run you! Whats the point then? I understand that ranged have an advantage but their is a diffrence between advantage and outright uselessness. I tried to help a friend later that day, he started running and I had to run after him. Needless to say he got killed and I was barely any help.


We can't even tank because our toughness is below everyone elses. I enjoy my profession and I don't plan on skiping it but this is just total frustration.


/rant


So, anyone have anything to add?




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machus0
Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:36 pm
#2

Lunge itll suck your ham down but it'll stop anything from running for a bit. That is if you get within like 10m first. If mobs arent going to melee me i just run in the other direction.
Green_Arrow
Sun Jul 20, 2003 7:01 pm
#3

I don't have a problem with Meatlumps. In fact, I enjoy finding them. I stand right in the middle of their spawning area, watch TV, and let auto-attack do the work for me. I 1-hit KO them all. I am about 1/3 of the way to Novice Pikeman. I have never had an NPC just shoot and then run away fromme. When I charge, they charge. Unless they changed things...





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JoThePsycho
Sun Jul 20, 2003 8:26 pm
#4

knockdown does wonders
YxDimreaverxY
Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:06 am
#5

buy a droid.
Hangfire78
Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:58 am
#6

Don't bring a "knife" to a gun fight?


Try keeping a blaster around in case of situations like this. You don't even have to be skilled in to throw a couple of shots around and get them to stop and start shooting back.


Besides, what do you want, the guy to just stand there as you wack him over the head? Then people would complain (and rightfully so) about crappy AI.

ilatroo
Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:06 am
#7

If they start running from me , I just run 2-3 steps away from them and they usually stop running and charge me.


I recently picked up carbine, so now I just shoot them if they run. Once the ham costs for carbine are fixed it should be a nice combo, both polearm and carbine hit action pool.




ilatroo
Ranger/Carbineer/Miner
Intrepid
Equilibruim
Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:15 am
#8

And thats why I spent a good portion ofthe day getting expert rifleman



Melik / Vigilante-

Melik / Lvl 1 Night Elf Druid / illidan
9thKYU
Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:38 pm
#9

If there is an object nearby (tree, rock, crate...) anything that will block their view of you, get behind it and go prone... ususally that act alone is enough to get them to either 1) go prone themselves... spring up and charge them then... or 2) abandon their run and gun and charge you... you don't typically have to remain prone, just the act of it sometimes causes them to charge.


Eli.




Eliwora Eyre
[ Novice Pikeman ] [ Master Brawler ] [ Master Medic ]

Charging Piket Dojo and Wellness Institute, Dant
killadwarf
Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:31 pm
#10

lol yea fool the AI.. They are thinking "He went prone... nobody in there right mind goes prone with a melee weapon, let me go kill them now"



Saryon McFall

Aspiring Bounty Hunter 0224 / Ranger 0010 / Holocron Slave 4444
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