Pikeman Archive

When we reach master polearm we are given the long vibro axe certification. Then, at the level of novice pikeman, we are granted the ability to use vibro lances. I believe the order, though, in which we recieve these certifications is not right. My case goes as follows:

Long vibro axes are stronger than vibro lances. I have not seen the stats myself but I have seen numerous debates on long vibro axes vs vibro lances, where long vibro axes seem to do the most damage, though they have greater ham costs (but in the end, even with all the complaints about the ham costs, which one does everyone pick? The heavy hitter). So if the long vibro axe is truly a greater weapon, should we not have the certification for the vibro lance first? Many of you will say "no" but when you take this in combination with my next reason, it may sway your oppinoin.

My second reason for this belief is that weaponsmiths are able to craft vibro lances before vibro axes. According to the weaponsmith skill tree it takes a master in the melee crafting branch to create a long vibro lance but takes one of the master weaponsmith title to create a long vibro axe. So if they can create a vibro lance before a long vibro axe, wouldn't you like to be able to use what they can create first? Weaponsmiths should be able to craft the weapons we use in the order we use them, and for the most part they do. But this part is the only wrong part I've seen.

My proposal is this: The order in which a master polearm/novice pikeman recieves his or her weapon certification should be changed so that one would be allowed to use vibro lances first and then, once having the title of novice pikeman, be able to use long vibro axes; or switch the order in which a weaponsmith can create vibro lances and long vibro axes so that they create a long vibro axe at master melee and vibro lance at master weaponsmith.

For those of you at master polearm specialization having to use lances or staffs when vibro lances are out but long vibro axes are not can see the problem here. Those who have already reached novice pikeman with a staff or lance should also see my point. And for those of you who are lucky enough to get a long vibro axe before novice pikeman should still understand the problem after reading this, should you have not known of it previous to examining this text. Please post here to state your agreement.

Eepan

I personally like Vibro Lances more than Long Vibro Axes. For a few reasons... VL's are held in the middle as compared to LVA's held at the end. The animations look better when you hold the weapon in the middle. The looks of the weapon... in my opinion, the VL looks better. The VL is also more stable accounting for the HAM costs and stats. So, if they change either of those things, which the most likely will not, would be the order of the weaponsmith. Just my $0.02.

Yes, green arrow but that is not my point. I am saying that we can't use a vibro lance until we get to novice pikeman, but we can use a long vibro axe. Weaponsmiths create long vibro axes last, and vibro lances before long vibro axes. I'm just trying to say that something should be switched around so we can actually use weapons we are certified for when we are certified for them. In my server there aren't any lva yet (or atleast none that are player crafted, if someone happened to pick one up) and, though there aren't vibro lances either, people are expecting to be able to craft vibro lances with in the next week... no one will be able to craft a long vibro axe for probably another two weeks when I can use a long vibro axe now and I cannot use a vibro lance.

I know what you were saying, and I agree. I said that the weaponsmith order should change, IMO. I am also not able to use a LVA or a VL, I have only seen them on NPC's.

Ah, yes, the npc's. What I am wondering is why can't I loot those weapons off the npc's!!!

According my skilltree in game, I get NO weapon certs at Master Polearm whereas a Two-handed Swordsman gets two; scythe and two-hand curved sword. It seems to me that scythe is more a polearm weapon. Just something else to think about.

Maybe I got the cert for long vibro axe at polearm 3. I can't remember at this point right now.

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greyshadow wrote:
Can you guys petition them fixing the advanced vibro unit that is used for these weapons. It has a typo that prohibits us from making it which would in turn limits the max dam and speed you get from these weapons.

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See the in development page that was updated yesterday. This has already been addressed.

Can you guys petition them fixing the advanced vibro unit that is used for these weapons. It has a typo that prohibits us from making it which would in turn limits the max dam and speed you get from these weapons.

What do you mean limits it? Can you elaborate more? My Long Vibro Axe is 81-332 which I thought was the norm.